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NW Iowa | Does anyone have an 8000 series John Deere as a loader. We recently bought a new tractor and now our 8130 wont be used as much so we're considering putting a loader on it. We will do everything we can to make it work better such as widen out the wheels, putting a joystick in, and putting a big loader on it (thinking Deere or Miller). It will be used mostly in open spaces loading manure stock piles and such. So I guess what I'm wondering is will it be ok or will it be a horrible loader tractor and a waste of money?
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Central Saskatchewan Canada | That's going to be one expensive project. But if you have the money it will be s good loader. Lots of lifting capacity. |
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NW Kansas | If you need a big loader might be better off getting rid of it and finding a wheel loader. They are way handier than a big tractor. |
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NEMO | I almost bought one on a dealer lot a few years ago, it had a 843 loader, 8130 tractor. In open spots I think it would be great, and would easily carry 2 bales at once. My biggest recommendation would be to absolutely get the electronic joystick. It is expensive to replace if the little chip goes bad (Deere makes you buy the whole stick instead of just the little bitty piece you need), but we have used both extensively and it really is nice. A 8130 and 843 with a grapple would be one serious machine.That being said if you would be using every day for hours at a time, an older 544 or 644 wouldn't cost much more than a loader and would run cheaper over the long run |
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NW Iowa | Thanks for replys. I wish we could trade for a pay loader, but we do use the tractor to haul loads in the fall so trading isn't an option. I'm looking at this because we need something bigger than my skid loader and we could set this up for somewhere around 35 to 40k (I'm guessing here) or I can buy something else more built for loader work i.e. A small pay loader or smaller framed tractor for around 120k so I'm just wondering if the 80ish thousand I'll save is worth the money or if I'll hate the 8130 on the loader because it'll be too clumsy.
Edited by LKT 1/2/2016 13:09
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western iowa,by Denison | 843 loader will work great-good visibility and mfwd-use common sense ,you will wonder how you ever got along with out it! |
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frederick, MD | In my opinion a loader tears up a tractor. Spend the 30k in a wheel loader. Don't be afraid of one with 10000 plus hours on it so long as it was taken care of |
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NEMO | Wow your budget is way bigger than I was guessing, think the end loader in my mind's eye would be a lot cheaper. To me the biggest drawback would be the Powershift on the tractor, and fooling with little shift lever. If the 8130 is an IVT, then that's a different deal, the perfect loader tractor set-up |
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NW Kansas | You could buy a pretty nice wheel loader for 40 k. |
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Huntley Montana | I have both loader tractors & Payloaders for hay.. For $3-40000 you can get a nice 544 E-H, $50-60,000 will get a J. 3x the loader. I would think you Should be able to put a loader on the 8xxx for under $20,000. But I much prefer the Payloader. You can Ajust the front wheels wider to turn better, but don't use extensions on a loader tractor. |
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North Cental Mo. | Your a lot fonder of an electric joystick than I am.
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Central Kansas | 8000 make good loader tractors. Have had loaders on 8100, 8400, 8410, and 8520. We always had Miller loaders and they worked extremely well. Yes if you were only going to use it as a loader a payloader would be better. But we were using our tractors to farm with too. The front two piece front wheels are the weak spots. Central Ag Wheel and Tire in Wichita Kansas made us 1 piece dished wheels that could be spaced on 60 inch or 90 inch centers. We loaded 10's of thousands of 4x4x8 big squares with them. The powershifts worked well because you can actually shift from forward to reverse without using the clutch. Make sure you install a foot throttle to make it work that much easier. |
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Saronville NE | Put a 843 on a 8110 little over a yr ago. Absolutely wonder how we got by without it before. It handled 2-1700 bales with ease, heavy wet manure, can pick up full size trees and carry to the hole when cleaning fence lines, have even dug out pretty good size trees with it. Get on frozen manure on aprons, put bucket down in low gear and just scrapes it off our old 5250 was too light just bucked and bounced in those situations. Don't regret it one bit. Put bout 900 hrs on it since putting loader on. One of the best moves we've ever made.
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I don't have joystick, get along fine with switches. I put 710/38 rubber on back for stability, really like that too. I just bought used rims and then put new tires on and bought used 600/65/28 rims and tires for front. Didn't spend a lot of money that way.
Edited by ahay68979 1/2/2016 16:07
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SE Ohio | Go to Westendorf loaders put in your kind and model of tractor and will give suggestions of westendorf loaders that fit and pictures.
http://www.loaders.com |
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NC Kansas | We love ours have have an 843 on a 8300 with over sized bucket use to load ground hay into trailers for feeding, and loading/moving big rounds. Darn nice loading semi and feedin a tub grinder with the extra reach and stability. It's not real nimble but we have a 4055 with a 725 loader for tight spots. |
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Shreve, Ohio | We had a Deere loader on a 8330. Worked great in wide open spaces. Just needed a little bigger area to turn with it. Tractor had duals on all 4 tires and it seemed like it would move anything. Also wasn't too difficult to remove loader to use tractor for fieldwork. Was nice setup. Good luck with your decision.
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Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA | LKT - 1/2/2016 10:26
So I guess what I'm wondering is will it be ok or will it be a horrible loader tractor and a waste of money?
The latter.
I ran an 8120 with a loader once. I found myself thinking "who the #### would want something like this when you can get a real loader instead?" You can't see anything, they're too long, the bucket is too small, too slow, etc. A pretty ordinary wheel loader or telehandler will make an 8000 series loader tractor look silly, and they don't give away those loaders for that size tractor. Take that money and go find a real loader and leave the 8130 to tractor work.
Edited by Big Ben 1/2/2016 18:40
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| Unless traction in mud is a problem. A payloader will shine over the 8xxx series loader. And I like loader tractors. |
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Eastern Shore of MD | We have one (think it is an jd 840 loader) on a 8300 & like it. We have a smaller bucket and a large one for poultry litter. Getting ready to put a 2nd one on an 8410. Quote for new one was either 24 or 26K , with joystick, etc- don't remember exactly & I know it included the large bucket & I think it included both buckets. |
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NC Kansas | I guess it depend on what you want to do with it most... Handling hay, moving around muddy lots and being on hay fields I'd want a tractor with some floatation. If I was on a firm ground or concrete loading Heavy material every day of the week then a wheel loader. We use our tractor to plant in the spring and spread fertilizer in the fall and pull a grain cart. We have no use for a wheel loader 95% of the time |
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Fairbury, NE (Southeast) | Depending on what you are doing with the tractor when the loader is not on, the joystick may be unnecessary. We had a Great bend 870 loader on a 8100 and the command arm controls really work slick for the loader. It is a pain to take the hydraulics off for tillage. |
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Saronville NE | Why buy new. Heck was a very lightly used H480 on Craigslist for 13k.
I gave 12500 for my 843 w grapple. Very lightly used had been on a 8130, used to move snow on row crop farm, hadn't been in feedlot at all. |
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Central Saskatchewan Canada | You can buy the little switch that goes bad in the joystick at an electronics store. I did in December for $14. The joystick was going to be $2500 from JD.
Email me if you want more info. Or if anyone else does.
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Middlesex County, Ontario | I love 8000 Deere's but just backing one up out of a shed and changing directions once or twice frustrates me enough. Powershift on a loader would drive me completely nuts. I guess I have been spoiled by (other people's) payloaders. |
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| Easy to find on Google:
https://www.google.com/search?q=switch+D2JW+01K11
(The number above it is likely the date of manufacture, 27th week of 1995).
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western iowa,by Denison | The original poster had a great question-he has a tractor he wants to keep, doesn't do much loading and is presently using a skid loader-my best advice-fine a used 843 loader-they can be bought for $10,000 to $20,000 use it and see how you get along-if your loader work grows you can always buy a pay loader-a pay loader is great-but you know your tractor and a simple loader attachment will work in your conditions-The power shift will be fine and common sense will get all your work done-when I was young we loaded feed with a 1650 oliver gas tractor(66hp)-we averaged a 1,000 hours a year on a clutch we replaced it every other month as we seemed to go through them, we didn't have fwd.-wore out a lot of chains, clutch's , and rear tires-What better way to make use of a tractor sitting idle-plus the pay loader will not pull loads and are slow transport speed-all for a pay loader-common sense and money comes first-plus your John Deere has a smother shift then the early 8,000's
looks like a better deal then a trip bucket stan hoist loader I started on! |
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Huntley Montana | sorry but I wouldn't mount a westendorf loader on a tractor I was planning on using. Never was impressed with them. |
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NEMO | Thanks for that, got lucky last time and wiggled the wire.
Edited by oldtiger 1/2/2016 23:16
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NEMO | Yeah , your right, a PS will work but personally I'd rather go 5th to reverse on a 4020 than fool with that little bitty shift lever on an 8000. Personal preference I guess. I'd get on my 8130 and pretend to do loader work before I committed to a loader. If it suits him that's great sounds like a plan to go 843, just because it will work doesn't mean it's the best plan. LKT is your tractor PS or IVT?
Edited by oldtiger 1/2/2016 23:31
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Saronville NE | It won't be that expensive of a project. My 843 came with joystick for a 30 series and grapple and 9ft HD bucket for 12500, and I spent another 4200 putting big rubber on it. Can't buy very nice payloader for 16-17. |
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South West Kansas | I have an 8410 with an 843 on it. I bought my 843 new for about 14000, no grapple or joystick. I have found you do not need a joystick.. you can run both functions of the loader with one hand. a grapple would be nice. the power shift is a none issue for me but i guess you just get use to what ever you have to work with. the thing is a beast, cheapest route for sure. |
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| ist actually not to bad for loaderwork with the PS.
http://www.farmphoto.com/thread.aspx?mid=1264197&cb=1451860809432#p...
Edited by j deere 1/3/2016 16:41
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8000 series John Deere loader
