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AR | I started following agtalk a while back and notice people talking about rumensin, this was the first time I every heard of it so I looked into it, I'd like to try it in my feed mix. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. And where to buy it my local store can special order a 55 lb sack of rumensin 90 for $800 which seems a bit high. I'm in central Arkansas, but I do travel through Oklahoma a little bit.
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AR | Nothing is wrong with my calves, their healthy suckers. I would mix it into their ration to promote weight gain and feed efficiency, and use it in my cows ration help them through the winter months. Remember I'm new to rumensin so I don't know all the in's and outs |
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north west arkansas | Bovatec is much safer to me. |
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AR | How much bovatec do you mix per ton. |
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north west arkansas | I'd have to look it up. I actually use bovatec and Ctc together. We put 50 pounds a ton of this mix per ton. |
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sc ia | I'd recommend Kent 34% baby beef with rumensin or something similar for calves that size. https://kentfeeds.com/products/commercial-animals/beef/feedlot/suppl...
I would be worried about getting the straight rumensin (like you checked into) mixed thoroughly so no calves get too much or too little. |
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SwMo on Ks line | Do Not try to use Rumensin 90 on farm mixing. this I will tell you from experience. Find a protein supplement will it or a Mineral premix . R1500 premix safe product to use. We use both R1500 and B1500 (Bovetec) in different situations. |
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I get a similar product to the one tboss mentioned and grind it with ear corn. There's no way I would be confident in my ability to mix the "pure" rumensin product. I've read a story about someone who ordered this type of 35% protein supplement like I use and the supplier brought straight rumensin and his employee mixed it as instructed. Ended up damaging the livers of the whole pen of cattle and I think they had to euthanize the whole lot of them. Basically, it's not the kind of thing you want to give them too much of. |
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AR | @mobeefguy the mineral you use do you mix it in or is it free choice? |
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AR | @t-boss thanks I'll looked into Kent and there's a few dealers close I'll call them up tomorrow. |
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Marianna Arkansas | I've had it mixed in the mineral for stockers. It adds 140 dollars a ton to the price of the mineral.
Don't let horses get it or bovatic. |
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western iowa,by Denison | until you have first handed experienced rumensin overdose in cattle -you will have no respect for the product |
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Southern MB | Yep I agree too not using Rumensin 90 on farm unless you have a good dry grain or protein ingredient you can evenly mix it with. You want to bulk it up (dilute Rumensin) into a >1lb feeding rate. Now you have made a supplement which would then be blended with your grains or TMR before feeding. The more you can spread out the Rumensin evenly for each mouth full the better.
Example Only:
Monensin at 10mg/lb of total dry matter feed intake. (Please Refer to Rumensin 90 Label for Directions)
Backgrounding 550lb beef steer eats approx 16lb total dry matter per day.
** 0.8 grams of Rumensin 90/head/day ** Cost is 3.2 cents/head/day
100 head would use 80 grams Rumensin 90 per day
As a visual illustration I took a picture of what Rumensin 90 might look like. There is 0.8 grams in the tablespoon and 79 grams in the bowl. As you can see if you tossed Rumensin 90 into a TMR that's higher in moisture (corn silage etc) the product would cling to the moist feed and create hot spots throughout the mix. If the TMR was 50% moisture then the 80 grams would go into 3200lb of feed.
Rumensin when added into a pelleted supplement and fed at >1lb feeding rate can easily be mixed with other on-farm ingredients. Then when you have fed the blend you can see the pellet giving you confidence your getting the Rumensin into the animal.
Rumensin is a great product when used correctly.
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NC Indiana | I use a Land O Lakes (Purina) co balancer product that has Rumensin in it @ 3/4#/hd/day. |
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Missouri | Right or wrong, I now feed 1lb per head per day of a 36% pellet that contains Monensin. As mentioned above, there's no way I'd attempt to mix it into the diet in it's concentrated form.
When I started this I left half the cattle on the regular 36% pellet without Monensin and it didn't take long to see a difference in bunk readings. My place isn't as precise as the bigger/better feeders, but I believe there was a noticeable difference in feed intake between the two pens on it and the two pens who weren't. Other than 8-10 fats a year that I keep on an "all natural" diet, I've fed it to all calves on feed ever since. |
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AR | Beanplanter I like that. I found a feed store pretty close that can get the percentage pellets. I'll probably try it first. I sure don't want to kill any cattle over something like that. |
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all over Iowa | You've gotten good feedback here. We use either a molasses based liquid containing Rumensin, or we use a 1/2# pellet that contains just the mineral and the Rumensin. Remember, for cows the legal feeding level of Rumensin is 200 mg/hd/day. If your supplement is 400 grams Rumensin per ton you can feed 1# per cow per day, if your supplement is 500 grams Rumensin per ton you feed .8# of Rumensin. Also realize that most supplements should also be carrying mineral and may very well provide all the mineral that you need, so you can probably save on the free choice mineral when force feeding the pellets. |
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AR | Yes I have! I appreciate all the input. I've always made sure to have quality mineral out for my pairs and the calves we background! Big thanks to T-boss for putting me on Kent brand feeds it looks like I'll be able to get all I will need or want to try through them. |
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Fresno, California | What ever you do, do not ever get Rumensin near Horses, one thimble full of Rumenson will kill a horse. Neighbor has lost thirteen horses in the last two months due to cross contamination of horse feed, being mixed in the same plant as cattle feed. No telling on how many more horses will die due the scar tissue on the hart after ingesting Rumensin in their feed.
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| Ben, kind of a late reply here, but if your calves are still grazing and you don't necessarily want to grain them, there's another option too. I've used rumensin protien blocks in the past when corn was too expensive. ADM makes them under their Moorman's brand. They're marketed more towards increasing the rate of gain on heifers on pasture, but they have a few different configurations for "softness" to adjust the rumensin dose. They're not cheap, but for me they were a lot cheaper than buying $8 corn to dose my calves. I don't have a scale, but I was very satisfied using them.
https://service.admani.com/portal/page/portal/ADM_Alliance_Nutrition...
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