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Justin ArkMo
Posted 9/6/2015 17:15 (#4774382)
Subject: Dozer pulling disc?


The Delta
New ground projects, can I pull a 13' offset disc, 26" blades with an 850L case dozer?



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olwhda
Posted 9/6/2015 17:27 (#4774402 - in reply to #4774382)
Subject: RE: Dozer pulling disc?


Liberty, MO
Can a person use a power shift for continuous load, I would think the power shift would get hot, just guessing. I think the farmers in the north west that use crawlers, use stick shift. Just guessing, I have a D6D power shift myself, like to know the truth here.
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headerpuncher
Posted 9/6/2015 17:35 (#4774416 - in reply to #4774402)
Subject: RE: Dozer pulling disc?


Ea. Washington
Put it in a gear it will pull it and go. They didn't put that drawbar on the back just for looks.
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Big Ben
Posted 9/6/2015 17:52 (#4774438 - in reply to #4774382)
Subject: RE: Dozer pulling disc?


Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA
Rippers are an option on about every dozer built. If they can pull rippers they can pull a disk.

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Funacres
Posted 9/6/2015 18:11 (#4774459 - in reply to #4774382)
Subject: RE: Dozer pulling disc?


Texas

I put 3 SCV's on a D7H and used it to pull a 30' mulch finisher and also a 10 bottom JD 3710 moldboard plow.  I also pulled a 5 shank 512 ripper.  

If you have doubts then keep a sharp eye on the transmission temp.  If it stays in range you are fine. 

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MAGNUM 1944
Posted 9/6/2015 20:12 (#4774664 - in reply to #4774382)
Subject: RE: Dozer pulling disc?


Used a Cat 953 to pull a 12' Rome stump disc without any problems.
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DC4020
Posted 9/6/2015 20:15 (#4774669 - in reply to #4774382)
Subject: RE: Dozer pulling disc?


Central Ga
I have pulled one about that size with a John Deere 450C.
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Farmncase
Posted 9/6/2015 21:08 (#4774825 - in reply to #4774382)
Subject: RE: Dozer pulling disc?


In lots of experience at working on dozers and operating them, a dozer transmission is not designed to pull continuously like that. When you push forward with a load and then back up is when the transmission has a chance to cool off. If you continuously pull it forward it will overheat the oil and burn the clutches and break the oil down and wont lube the clutch packs good enough. In my opinion, I would find a track tractor to do what you are wanting done if it is tires that you are worrying about.
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Norstman
Posted 9/6/2015 22:01 (#4774948 - in reply to #4774825)
Subject: RE: Dozer pulling disc?


What happened to the rowquads? Thought they were the best thing since sliced bread?
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CaseIH7240
Posted 9/6/2015 22:08 (#4774962 - in reply to #4774382)
Subject: RE: Dozer pulling disc?


Ohio
Our tile contractor puts between 2-3 million feet of tile a year with a old fiat-allis dozer and a zor tile plow on the back of it. Don't think it would hurt to pull a disk.
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twraska
Posted 9/6/2015 22:47 (#4775019 - in reply to #4774382)
Subject: RE: Dozer pulling disc?


Wallis, TX

If that is a rental dozer I would try it.  Your dozer, IDK, those tracks don't last long pulling, especially if you go fast and the side pull of an offset makes it even worse.  We pulled some Rome disks in Ghana with the D-7R's and that was an EXPENSIVE trip over the field, as it took lots of life out the tracks.

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Fawazhay
Posted 9/6/2015 23:21 (#4775055 - in reply to #4774962)
Subject: RE: Dozer pulling disc?


Northern CA
CaseIH7240 - 9/6/2015 22:08

Our tile contractor puts between 2-3 million feet of tile a year with a old fiat-allis dozer and a zor tile plow on the back of it. Don't think it would hurt to pull a disk.


Is that a powershift or gears? Out here in CA, farming with dozers was and is still somewhat common. However, all farm dozers or direct gear drive, not powershift. Most ads specify the transmission even in their ads. I know a guy with a D8K that will do some ripping, but has to watch as if he is at it too long, it will over heat the powershift. There are many D8K's direct drive that have 20,000 plus hours ripping.
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eight
Posted 9/7/2015 00:08 (#4775082 - in reply to #4774382)
Subject: RE: Dozer pulling disc?


South Texas
Im gonna guess that's a hydrostat. I've root plowed plenty thousands of acres with deere hydros, constant full load, seldom over 110f here but if coolers kept clean they don't overheat. That said I think a 850 case is 650 deere size and not sure how hard your disc pulls, if it's a worn down rome it may just stop. Undercarriage is cheaper than tires, and it doesn't accidentally die. Once in my early days of operating I was told "you can't break the dozer", still holds true mostly. Also run farm tractors on the root rake and rome plow at times, killed surprisingly few tires, but you can break the tractor. Once tried a track tractor about one round on the rake, it will grab a root between the track and wheel, and pull it and whatever mess is attached up and rip the fender off.
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tj_farmer
Posted 9/7/2015 13:58 (#4775901 - in reply to #4774962)
Subject: RE: Dozer pulling disc?


NW central IL
pull a tile plow with a d6r, powershift, no heat issues at all. as long as the dozer stays moving under load its think the oil would stay cool if its in good condition.
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