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NW Central Iowa (Fort Dodge) | Why does Beck's sell their Soybeans in 130K units instead of 140K units like everyone else?
Edited by magnumman 8/15/2015 20:27
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| Seed Consultant's sell's their Round-up bean's in 150,000 unit's. You really have to love the Kool-
aide to do Beck's. Need them toy's bad you do. |
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The black sand beaches of Jamaica, IL | Their claim is all the extra treatments they put on them means you can plant less. So beck's 130k = 140k competitors their own kool-aid also makes math skills a little fuzzy. |
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Western Kentucky | I think it's just a way to be different. As long as you account for it shouldn't matter |
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St. Charles, MO & Piper City, IL | I believe they were the first to offer beans by unit and picked that as their research showed that to be a good planting rate per acre. I'd say they are right. |
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NW Central Iowa (Fort Dodge) | I wanted them Untreated, but turns out they treat everything! Then saw they are only 130K per unit. |
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20 Miles West of Indianapolis Indiana | magnumman - 8/15/2015 20:38
I wanted them Untreated, but turns out they treat everything! Then saw they are only 130K per unit.
In there defense I am 99% sure you can return treated beans to Beck's. No experience personally tho. |
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20 Miles West of Indianapolis Indiana | il weedman - 8/15/2015 20:38
I believe they were the first to offer beans by unit and picked that as their research showed that to be a good planting rate per acre. I'd say they are right.
I believe you are right. IIRC it was Beck's that sent my dad "off the deep end" when they went to seed count rather then #'s... Then dad and I bought a planter rather then the drill and all of the sudden it made sense. Ha |
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NW Central Iowa (Fort Dodge) | We have been planting 140-150K/ac, all those years we have been wrong! Are the seeds color blind or do they only work on Green and Blue planters? |
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West Kentucky | I think this is the 14th year, give or take, that they have been in 130k count bags. I have personally planted units that were over 72# from Beck's. Seems like 130k almost always works out close to a 50# unit in group 4 beans. In group 3's, seems to be pretty common to have heavier unit sizes. Like others have said, either is fine by me because they are easy enough to figure. Shouldn't surprise anyone anymore that they are 130k. |
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Owens Cross Roads, AL | Get any rain, I got a tenth today. Some areas got 1-2". Wilson |
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St. Charles, MO & Piper City, IL | Yes they are treated always. Was kind of a deal breaker for me at the COOP I worked at when I looked at them. Had already put in a treater and bulk bins and they would not let us treat them downstream and wouldn't work with me on the investment in the system. Was almost ready for the airplane ride till then. |
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| Magnumman
Over 10 years ago Becks was the first company to sell seed count soybeans. Back when Becks went to 130k there was no such thing as 140k. They tend to lead rather than follow.
Edited by DFarmer1466 8/15/2015 23:08
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West Kentucky | We did not. Just south of town had water running in the ditches though. |
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West Union, Illinois | magnumman - Why does Beck's sell their Soybeans in 130K units instead of 140K units like everyone else? You're asking backwards. Why does everyone else use some other count when Beck's was the ones who started selling by count? |
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West Union, Illinois | magnumman - I wanted them Untreated, but turns out they treat everything! Then saw they are only 130K per unit. I'll tell you what I was told years ago. Turn your planter down 10% then plant Beck's beans. Next year turn it down 10% again. If you can plant with a consistent depth and spacing you can probably reduce your population 10-30% and not hurt yields. Might even raise the yields. My first year planting Beck's beans we got a very large seeded variety, and my 5500 SoybeanSpecial with SI belt meters couldn't handle them. I got a planted population of about 100,000. Made 62 bu/acre. At the time that was our personal record. |
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Monticello IL | 100, 000 evenly spaced plants is all you need from any seed company to hit yield potential on most soils. |
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20 Miles West of Indianapolis Indiana | I plant beans about the same pops as you normally. Dad likes to up his pops to 165-170. |
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20 Miles West of Indianapolis Indiana | It can be addicting...
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NW Central Ohio | ..I'm glad you said "most" soils. Ohio State's long time soybean researcher (Jim Beurline) was willing to go to 90,000 on that assertation...but I don't think he was making a living planting on a Paulding or Toledo Clay.... |
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| The problem with planting the lower population if you get any kinda rain during emergence you lose stand. So yea if you get a 100,000 CONSISTENT plants I believe you can make great beans. But planting 125,000 or so shooting for 100,000 lose a little bit coming up you get an inconsistent 75-80k. That won't yield the best. You might get a good crop but you lost yield. |
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Near Lansing, MI | Soill farmer - 8/16/2015 09:36
The problem with planting the lower population if you get any kinda rain during emergence you lose stand. So yea if you get a 100,000 CONSISTENT plants I believe you can make great beans. But planting 125,000 or so shooting for 100,000 lose a little bit coming up you get an inconsistent 75-80k. That won't yield the best. You might get a good crop but you lost yield.
We drilled 175K in 15" rows this year, min till and no till. Probably have a 80-90K pop and short as heck. |
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deep SW On. | Soill farmer - 8/16/2015 09:36
The problem with planting the lower population if you get any kinda rain during emergence you lose stand. So yea if you get a 100,000 CONSISTENT plants I believe you can make great beans. But planting 125,000 or so shooting for 100,000 lose a little bit coming up you get an inconsistent 75-80k. That won't yield the best. You might get a good crop but you lost yield.
JD drill into untouched corn stalks on our "clays" you don't want too drill less than 220k+ because of above reasons and even some soy specialists say increase pops for more yield.........now bare,clean sandy loam with a good vacuum planter I am sure 100k acre is good..........just like PP mods,planter/drill real yield maker/breaker is weather |
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Eastern Ont | Add some slugs to that and they can easily take upto another 20k off your final stand in notill conditions. |
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| Seed companies must love the farmer that still drills beans at 180 to 220k. In my opinion a drill is nothing more than a controlled spill
Trade in the drill for a real planter and cut your seeding rates by an easy 50k seeds per acre off a drill. Doesnt take long to get your money back.
Edited by DFarmer1466 8/16/2015 11:41
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| Well after the wettest spring I can remember I'd have to disagree, I've got fields that were PLANTED at 85k, those areas have almost 200 more pods per 10000th/acre. If they yield like they look they will we will keep doing it. Seed was full treated F/I/V. |
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East central Indiana | Exactly mike. They were the first to change took tons of heat over it. And now just because there different there still taking heat. |
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SE Nebraska | Yes you can return treated seed to Beck's |
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