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dilworth, mn | We had the opportunity to demo a 718 fend with a loader and needless to say we were very impressed, especially with the ride. Currently our loader tractor is a 575d challenger and we have had pretty good luck with. Our local dealer has just started selling fends so this would be one of the first ones in our immediate area so we are a little worried for that reason. What are everyones thoughts on fendts? Any must have options for the fendt? I can get into the fendt for just a little bit more than the challenger. Main use for the tractor is moving bales, raking, and running a 12r pro ag stacker
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Shelburne Ontario Canada | Stay away from 800. Dont tune them or they eat pistons at 5-6000hrs. they have good electronics . U need big hydraulic pump or loader is very slow . |
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juniata co. Pennsylvania | Well for me hualing heavy manure tanks the fendt was the best tractor for it . So far we like them very little problems and great dealer service . Depends what you're doing with them you're opinion will vary .overall I think they are above your challenger at least that was my experience
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Mid-Missouri | Just for conversation, does Deere have a tractor that would fit the bill? If so, I would be curious why you are considering a Fendt.
Sorry, I can't add much to your original question. |
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WCIN | The fendt is as reliable as anything on the market. Proven reliable power train. Smooth ride. Starting in 16 or 17 challenger is supposedly dropping Massey for the fendt. I know they're all agco. I assume the red masseys will be red fendts but maybe not?
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Middlesex County, Ontario | My honest opinion is that I am afraid of age on them. Not afraid of hours, but age. |
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dilworth, mn | i have heard that ago may be dropping the challenger wheel tractors in the future as well. Makes sense as the dealer that just took on the fendt line is a challenger dealer. |
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algona iowa | Seems agco dose not want build things for the long haul then drop them and leave you with something in the end you have a hard time getting parts for. |
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North Central Texas | If you trade regular enough that you have a 575d from 3 or 4 years ago then go with the fendt. Deere might be a caddilac but the fendt is a Mercedes. |
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Good Ol' East Texas | Fendts are really good tractors. We run two 828 on triples, a 926 and a 718 with a loader. When you get one with a loader make sure you get at least 6 remotes in the back since the loader will use two of them. Make sure it has an air ride cab and the active seat. |
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Good Ol' East Texas | Have you drove a Fendt? We have had deeres and the Fendts would run circles around them. |
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| And your not adding much with your question either. He did not ask about a leaping goat, he wants a GOOD tractor. We have had good luck with our 924, and 927s. We trade usually around 5000 hours. Have had some minor issues, but the 3 year gold care is a great thing. Far superior tractor to the challenger. We have had Fendts for about 15 years. You do not have to worry about Agco getting rid of Fendt. It is here to stay. |
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Woodham, Ontario | What's wrong with the current 800 series? |
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Shelburne Ontario Canada | The 800 engines seem to be maxed out if they are run hard they seem to be failing early |
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Western illinois | What have you Fendt owners found as far as parts prices? I started my career with Deutz tractors. They were good machines, but the parts were terribly expensive. And their electrical systems left a lot to be desired. German engineers build a good product, but they won't ever admit to a mistake. Not intended to hijack the thread. |
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Galena IL | We have a 930 with all the bells and whistles. My son age 27 loves it I age 61 drove it the most the first year,I went and bought another 8335R deere so I don't have to drive it much anymore. It has spend more time in the shop than last dozen new Deeres put together that I bought. It did not cost me any thing just not here for a month. If you like computers and hand brakes buy it. If you just want to turn the key and drive buy the Deere.... Dennis |
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NW KS/ SC ID | Many folks in the past have mentioned that once you spec a Deere out with comparable features to the Fendt, the Fendt is actually cheaper. Plus, some folks aren't color blind, and want to find the best tractor regardless of color. ;) |
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Central Alberta | Don't the 700 and 800 series have the same motors? If so I can see why you would have trouble if you chipped an 800 series |
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Alentejo, Portugal | fuzzy - 6/15/2015 01:35
The fendt is as reliable as anything on the market. Proven reliable power train. Smooth ride. Starting in 16 or 17 challenger is supposedly dropping Massey for the fendt. I know they're all agco. I assume the red masseys will be red fendts but maybe not?
From various experiences I heard, Fendt is Fendt. Massey is not Fendt. Valtra is not Fendt. Although they come from the same mother company, they are very different. Maybe not underneath, but certainly in the way they operate. |
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Nova Scotia | go foe it , we have had a couple late model Deeres and they have been nothing but problems seems the R series will be Deeres biggest flop to date while on the other hand the two Fendts have been great , seems like the Deeres needed to see the service shop every 100 hours while the Fendts only needed to see the shop every 1000 hours , huge difference in run time for sure.
Also seems that there electronics seem to be much more reliable. |
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Germany | Here in germany Fendt´s parts service compares to that of John Deere. You can get everything, also for older stuff, most of it is reasonably priced, some parts seem to be made of gold though... Deutz (the tractor brand, not the engines) was not managed too well for quite a while, seems to improve lately. |
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Wi | We have a 722 with a loader, nice handy tractor. 500hrs on it now. 1700+ on our 930 we got a year and a half ago. Both have been very reliable and very nice to run, but that depends on how much of an open mind you have. They can do a lot if you want them to.
I would buy one 10 times before a massey or yellow massey. With all of the headaches MF products have caused us I could care less to ever see one again. You wont regret spending more when the neighbor with the MF is broke down and you're still going, or when you go to trade it in and his MF is worth nothing.
Must have options really depend on what you are doing. Our 930 is loaded (900s come standard with a lot as it is), our 722 is pretty bare. They offer three cab suspensions on them. Our 722 has the cheapest suspension which is just some coilovers in the rear and it rides fine, its nowhere near as nice as the 900 but the 900's size and IFS have a lot to do with that as well. They also offer three seats. Our 930 has the active evolution and it will piss you off when it's not happy, which is often. Had them in our MF's too and they were annoying. The non-active versions were a bit better. The cushions are very comfortable on the evolutions compared to the cheapest seat, but the cheapest seat is the simplest and most reliable. Our 722 has it and its not bad, just that the cushions are not as nice. It's nice not having to fight with it or talk nice to it in order for it to put air in though.
One of the bigger options you'd have to decide on is the display, if you want the 10.4 or the smaller one. Build and quote site is not working today and I can't remember what all comes standard with what. Profi Plus comes with the bigger 10.4 IIRC. Profi comes with the 7". Our 722 has the 7", its fine for most things but if you want to run guidance and a lot of other things the bigger one is nicer. You can run some guidance off the small screen. Ordering it guidance ready is something you'd want to decide as well, adding the guidance later is more expensive than ordering it new but its as simple as snapping in the module and having a few things changed in the software. Making it guidance ready later is usually cost prohibitive.
I would say the trailer mirrors are a must especially with a loader, very nice being able to see where your wheels are at. There's a bunch of other options that are like any other tractor, beacons, HID's (or LED's now I guess), front 3pt (few different options), front PTO (easy to add later). Not sure if the 700s have rear PTO options or not, IIRC the standard one is 540e/1000. Variotronic TI is handy to have if you will be doing a lot of fieldwork and using the headland system. Have the dealer go through the options with you and, maybe ask some others that are more familiar with them to be sure you are getting what you want. There aren't a ton of options on Fendt's when compared to other brands, a lot of stuff is standard. some things are easy to add later on, other things cannot be added.
The 3yr/3k service/warranty is standard, all you do is put fuel and DEF in. They come and do the rest.
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Wi | packerfan - 6/14/2015 21:30 What have you Fendt owners found as far as parts prices? I started my career with Deutz tractors. They were good machines, but the parts were terribly expensive. And their electrical systems left a lot to be desired. German engineers build a good product, but they won't ever admit to a mistake. Not intended to hijack the thread.
Not any worse than any other company is. What you get though is usually some part made in Germany or nearby, not China or Mexico. The German engineers are stubborn and theres some things in the fendt that still make you go hmmm. |
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Wi | Gerard - 6/14/2015 20:22 What's wrong with the current 800 series?
Other than their engine issues, Personally I just don't see the point in the 800 series. What do you gain over a 900 series for the minimal price difference? They aren't any smaller, you loose the nice IFS front end and big tires. I guess you can spec an 800 cheaper than a 900 due to whats all standard on a 900 series, but if you spec them the same the price difference is tiny. If you think you need a big tractor, buy a 900, if you think you need a nimble, quick, handy little tractor buy a 700. The 800 seems lost between with no real advantage. |
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Wi | fuzzy - 6/14/2015 19:35 The fendt is as reliable as anything on the market. Proven reliable power train. Smooth ride. Starting in 16 or 17 challenger is supposedly dropping Massey for the fendt. I know they're all agco. I assume the red masseys will be red fendts but maybe not?
They wont ever do that, the Fendt is built for a different market than the Challenger/MF. Neither can completely take the place of the other and satisfy every customer. |
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Wi | ge jr - 6/14/2015 19:50 Seems agco dose not want build things for the long haul then drop them and leave you with something in the end you have a hard time getting parts for.
Fendt will not be going away for a long time. Agco has done well leaving them alone. They bought Fendt in the 90s. |
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SW WI | We are on our second Fendt, started with a 716 with a loader, traded it off around 7000 hrs when it seemed like a lot of the sensors were starting to go, that probably was a good move its still sitting at the dealers 2 years later. Replaced it with 720 with a loader so now we have TMS and a foot feed which is a lot better for loader work. I like having the curved windshield for high loader work, probably wouldn't mind having the bigger mirrors now after running it for a while, otherwise it seems like the newer design is an improvement.
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Modena, Wisconsin | Getting to be a number of 800 series in the area. Many with operators that also run 930's. They get used mainly for mergers and triple mowers and a few other tasks. A few of the 2014's had DEF issues but they have been pretty good machines for everything else. |
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Honest opinions on fendt tractors
