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Johns Deere 458 round baler, net wrap issues
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Ford&Deere
Posted 5/21/2015 08:12 (#4583309)
Subject: Johns Deere 458 round baler, net wrap issues


Keymar, Maryland
The guys I work for have 2 458 balers that both do the same thing. It seems like most of the time, the net wrap goes anywhere but on the bale. It wraps up around the rollers and tears it. It's bad enough that they put cab cams on each baler so you know wether to re wrap it or not. I just put new v belts on both of them for the net wrap rolls. I don't get why they do what they do
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twraska
Posted 5/21/2015 08:29 (#4583346 - in reply to #4583309)
Subject: RE: Johns Deere 458 round baler, net wrap issues


Wallis, TX

Welcome to the wonderful world of JD net wrap systems.  Some things to try.  Lots of baby powder, adjusting the brake, smaller bales and different brands of net.

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Ford&Deere
Posted 5/21/2015 08:51 (#4583383 - in reply to #4583346)
Subject: RE: Johns Deere 458 round baler, net wrap issues


Keymar, Maryland
The Deere brand wrap seems to work the best. It wrapped around the rubber roller for the first time ever on me at about midnight last night, luckily there was some powder in the baler that I threw on it and solved that issue. Would I adjust the brake tighter?
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ntexcotton
Posted 5/21/2015 10:19 (#4583489 - in reply to #4583383)
Subject: RE: Johns Deere 458 round baler, net wrap issues


North Central Texas
How worn are the belts? Hay good and dry? Pins al good in the belts? Cutting clean or ragged on the wrap? Belt wear causes lots of grief.
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Ford&Deere
Posted 5/21/2015 10:38 (#4583512 - in reply to #4583489)
Subject: RE: Johns Deere 458 round baler, net wrap issues


Keymar, Maryland
The belts are definitely worn. Makin baleage right now, but dry hay does the same thing
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cfreeman
Posted 5/21/2015 10:42 (#4583518 - in reply to #4583309)
Subject: RE: Johns Deere 458 round baler, net wrap issues


Central NC
As the other post stated JD net wrap systems are somewhat finiky. The key I have found ( baled 2800 4x4 rolls last year and never got off baler unless to put a new roll of net wrap).
1. Keep a bottle of baby power on the baler ( between the rolls of twine fits nicely) dust the snot out of the roll of net, the rubber roller every time you go to bale.
2. Proper adjustment on the roll brake ( take a peek now and then to see if it looks right bolt has not moved, etc..
3. CLean the baler.. I blow off with a leaf blower each time.
4. Clean the brush on the bottom of the wrap assembly 4 bolts real easy PM thing.
5. If the rubber roller is damaged replace.

All net components have to be slick and smooth to work. Most all of the net is manufac. by Tama just painted a diff color. Green seems to make your hay look a little better. Hope this helps
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Haybale
Posted 5/21/2015 10:48 (#4583529 - in reply to #4583512)
Subject: RE: Johns Deere 458 round baler, net wrap issues


WC Iowa
Make sure your knife is very sharp and has an even straight cutting edge. If the brush is still on the lower net roller take it off. Also, check the pan under the back bottom belts where it feeds the net between the belts. These get worn and or cracked over time and any jagged edge here can really screw up where the net ends up. This pan needs to slightly rub the belts...I believe the adjusting procedure is in book. Good luck...very frustrating when it doesn't work right.
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ntexcotton
Posted 5/21/2015 11:10 (#4583560 - in reply to #4583512)
Subject: RE: Johns Deere 458 round baler, net wrap issues


North Central Texas
Deere wrap will buy some time but old belts let it catch on the splices
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R Farms
Posted 5/21/2015 15:44 (#4583877 - in reply to #4583309)
Subject: RE: Johns Deere 458 round baler, net wrap issues


East Central Missouri
1. Check and drop the rack on the back of the baler (between the net wrap roll and the baler belts) to see it there is something catching the wrap, burr or sharp edge. We drop the rack and lightly sand any rust off the rack before starting the year to reduce the drag until the metal get shinned up again.
2.Check your rubber roller and steel roller for nicks and cuts. If someone took a knife and cut across the rolls when trying to remove the net it can cause burrs that will catch wrap. If it has damage replace or take a knife and cut the bad spot out making it smooth then get some sand paper to smooth off rough areas. I would also as others have mentioned and talc the rolls.
3. Check the stripper plates and feed fingers (If equipped) for wrap that is stuck in the pickup area. It can catch the wrap and cause a bigger mess if not removed early on.

Louie
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Ford&Deere
Posted 5/21/2015 21:17 (#4584312 - in reply to #4583529)
Subject: RE: Johns Deere 458 round baler, net wrap issues


Keymar, Maryland
The support bar on both balers for that pan is bowed! That explains it. Probably from either backing into a bale or a bale rolling into it
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wire farms
Posted 5/21/2015 22:19 (#4584482 - in reply to #4584312)
Subject: RE: Johns Deere 458 round baler, net wrap issues


Nebraska
Ford&Deere - 5/21/2015 19:17

The support bar on both balers for that pan is bowed! That explains it. Probably from either backing into a bale or a bale rolling into it


They have a slight bow in them from the factory if we're talking about the same piece. It has something to do with the tension.
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farmerboy50
Posted 5/21/2015 22:22 (#4584487 - in reply to #4584312)
Subject: RE: Johns Deere 458 round baler, net wrap issues


West Texas
Make sure rollers are clean as well. If they have build up, the belts push the wrap against the pan causing the net to tear.
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