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Moreauville LA | Been wanting to build a sprayer shed, chemical storage, loading spot all in one.
I don't want an elaborate storage facility, just something to block the sun wind rain.
I also contend that building one of these May attract attention to having a chem facility and thus face authoritaritive scrutiny in the future, vs nothing and load in the field.
If there's some of these you've built, I'd appreciate seeing them for ideas. |
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Kingston,Mi | Let me look thru my pictures of chemical secondary containments with room for a sprayer. I designed many during my years with NRCS. We limited the size to the largest physical sized sprayer plus numerous totes, 2.5 gallon jugs and rinse tanks. Our designs had separate containment volumes for stored material and for the sprayer itself (this reduces the amount of surface to clean should a tank fail), no drains allowed.
Early versions were sometimes built into tool sheds, we stopped allowing that (cost shared by government agencies) due to the very real concern that if a fire was to occur, the fire departments involved would allow the entire building to burn to consume the chemicals rather than contaminate runoff with chemicals.
Our designs were very discreet, looking like 1 more small tool shed. The emergency response people know what is there and where to find a copy of the on-farm emergency plan (a poly tube like the ones used to store operators manual on equipment, it has a reflective label and is strapped to a known point such as a power pole).
Most operators do very little actual mixing in these sites, preferring to mix and load in the field, just needing a secure site to store chemicals and a sprayer plus a place to clean up and recover contaminated rinsates etc. |
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SE Nebraska, Near Misery and Cans Ass! | Don't know about there but here when you say load out that requires containment and disposal of spillage. Design and construction requirements are substantial . That's why we mix and load and wash in the field. |
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Mid-Missouri | Really need to know more details....how many acres sprayed per year, do you want to fill up at home for each tank or be able to fill machine in field.
What I am getting at is you might be able to justify a 60x80 building for your shed, or maybe kill two birds with one stone and purchase a semi trailer with water tanks, inductors, and chemical storage space in one enclosed package.
 http://www.rydelltrailers.com/ |
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North west MN | +2 That is what I would recommend is a Semi Van I bought a semi refer from Rydell Trailers it has worked out real good chemicals can be locked up water stays out of the sun so no green water plus nothing gets wet when it rains |
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| Only bad thing about a van is loading/unloading totes/pallets. And the Rydell reifers are a little narrow and they need a check valve installed. Otherwise I'm happy with mine. |
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Mid-Missouri | Where do you recommend a check valve? On the three inch line in front of large inductor? |
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kirkton ontario | Tell me more about the exhaust on the honda pump, what materials did you use? How well does it work? |
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| That's where we're going to put ours. Haven't done it yet. I'm a little worried about having enough head pressure to prime the pump when the tanks get low. Its best to empty one at a time. We had an incident with getting chemical back into a supply tank, hence the desire for a check valve. They are good trailers, but we have made several changes and would make more if ordering one custom built. |
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EC IN | We use an old single axle van trailer. 2500gal water in front (filled from either 2" or tap water with its own shutoff), 250gal tank for glyphosate, 2 totes of Cinch, 1 tote of 2-4D, 1 tote of crop oil, one pallet of AMS in the back. We can refill any of the totes through RV windows we installed, as we as natural light. We have no check valves, suction side does have one induction tank with a valve on it as well as supply water valve. Have another on the pressure side that has a rinse tower to wash jugs, with valves to bypass it when not needed. Our pump is underneath infront of the axle to eliminate exhaust issues. Everything is plumbed for 2", no air to blow lines.
Up until this year we used a pickup sprayer with 500gal and 60' booms. Got a JD4720, so water could be an issue if we go hard, but we have some stationary tanks we parked next to to add supply. Works great, it's mobile if needed, but usually sits at home with a dolly we made to support the front. |
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Moreauville LA | The sprayer trailer doesn't work here, at all. No consideration.
I spray about half from home half away. I have the away covered.
Just was looking for different ideas on a simple shed, couple cage tanks, water storage tank, pumps, and of course the sprayer, 4720
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Chaffee, Western New York | Nt |
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Iowa | I have multiple systems that I've plumbed with the 2 and 3 inch banjo flange check valves. With enough head pressure I can have water get thru the check valve going the wrong direction. Idk what the problem is but I'm gonna investigate this week. Shouldn't be possible. Both instances are with the 3" check valve I believe. One place I have the check valve installed is basically at the base of the inductor so as to eliminate inflow of water into the inductor if the valve is forgotten open. One of my current failures is in that application. The other is on another system and I can't remember exactly where. Maybe it's as simple as a piece of debris that entered via the inductor. Something is causing the plunger to hang open.
As far as having enough pressure to prime I don't think that is a concern. We've never had any problem with that at all. The psi to open the valve is very low. |
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Northeast Louisiana | Our next project is going to be something similar to this. I'm thinking about 40x40 for chemical storage and the open roof will have the mix tanks and pump so that you can mix loads in the shade and be the parking spot for the sprayer. It will double as the wash pad and the pressure washer will be inside.
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Moreauville LA | My intentions
Shade
2" water from my supply in the form of an overhead boom
Skirted sidewalks
Use one side for my oil storage
Use a oil changing spot for equipment.
I've considered is something tall enough and wide enough that in the fall I could pull in with the combine, header on.
Meanwhile, and I know they don't mix, but make a nice deer skinning facility as well
The pressure washing won't work. Every time you want to wash, the sprayer will be there.
The ability to load on the outside as well.
I've even considered one of these prefab carports would work. |
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Huntley Montana | I'm kinda scattered over 120 miles, 2- 300 loads a year. Have a 10 wheeler w 2 1500 tanks in the yard, then have a 10 wheeler set up with a 2800 gallon tank of CLEAN WATER , 2" pump, inductor, 8' of cage for chemicals on front that I have someone in most of the time when I'm spraying so the sprayer pulls up to the end & loads. I also have a pintle hitch combine trailer I haul the sprayer where needed also. Thing I like about this is the quart/2 that spills when the tank is full is not a concern when it's in 2-300 different spots, not all in 1 place. |
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Marianna Arkansas | I do most loads from one spot, when I have to go further I try to do "hot loads in the nurse trailers so we just adjutant and load.
Two years ago I bought a 130 gallon stainless steel mixing tank with a jug rinse. Last year I bought a electric powered flow max pump. This year I put a scale under my mix tank to measure by weight instead of volume. Right now I'm building a set of 115 gallon cone tanks that will hold pre mixed loads or hold chemical right from the bulk totes, I'll just let it flow into the tank till the correct weight is reached. I'm thinking of buying some pallet shelves and going overhead to set totes above, someone had a pic on here yesterday of that and it looked like it would work for my system.
After all that the next thing that would be great is a building like 5 lock posted, put all my stuff there and really be set. Only thing to add would be drive through washing, we wash every night no matter how cold or late. |
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North west MN | I seem to have enough room in mine for 3 totes or pallets but I wish I would have went with the wider 102 inch trailer. As far as check valve the only thing I have worried about is if my transfer pump ran out of gas while unloading cone but I make sure I stand right there until the cone is empty and rinsed. |
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| My problem resulted from forgetting to open the valve after the 3"pump. As the smaller pump pumped water into the mixing cones it became higher than the water level in the tanks and backflowed. |
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North west MN | Would the trailer be too high if that is the problem a local areal pilot took the running gear off a trailer and set it on the ground and uses that for a loading shed it has side doors that are nice for loading the plane and brings the chemical in from the back door |
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Central Missouri | Seedcleaner how did you extend the exhaust on the honda engine? I'm tired of breathing fumes all the time in mine |
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| That is a Rydell trailer. They do all the setup and they come just as the picture shows. |
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Marianna Arkansas | Five Lock Boll - 5/17/2015 10:05
Our next project is going to be something similar to this. I'm thinking about 40x40 for chemical storage and the open roof will have the mix tanks and pump so that you can mix loads in the shade and be the parking spot for the sprayer. It will double as the wash pad and the pressure washer will be inside.
I had one place set up where I mixed in the shade. It was nice but I rented another farm that had a full shop and it was more in the center of the farm so I changed to there. Could also use a forklift at that shop and that makes handling a whole lot eaiser. |
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oregon | I'd say make your chemical storage space as small as possible. Otherwise you tend to accumulate too much inventory and some of the stuff gets lost in the back and become old or obsolete. Let the co-op deal with the inventory. That is my take on things. |
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Sprayer/chemical loading pad, shed, set ups?
