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Montana | How come all of these trains are mostly in Canada? Are there legal restrictions on hauling with them in the US? Some of them seem like a lot of trailer for the money.
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| The rear trailer works great for field to farm although with the shorter trailer your bridge weight is reduced. |
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North Central OH | I am going to guess the 80,000lb weight limit in most states and on the interstate. |
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NW KS/ SC ID | The DOT would have to think logically to allow that in the US, so good luck ever seeing them. :)
I agree, it would be nice to have them. |
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NW Washington | I see Canadian B-trains on the road here just south of the border all the time so they must be legal. My guess is that they are not long enough to get the max weight in the western part of the US where an 18 wheeler with an 8 wheel pup with a long hitch is more common for hauling grain. |
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Montana | How many bushel do you think a guy could legally get on the train I posted pictures of? |
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Dearfield Co. | LOL----------------at a million per mile to redo a interstate highway and costs probably close on 2 lane that can't handle 80000 lbs why would we want this at all. Look at nebraskas roads and what the increased weight limits have done to CO roads and see if it would pencil in the long run |
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oxford county, ontario | Don't know if this is any help, but our Wilson Super B's and Volvo truck weigh 40,000 empty,so if you are max'd out at 80,000 you would only be hauling 40,000 lbs legal |
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Kingston,Mi | Several bigger Ontario B trains hauling currently past my house and there are a few Michigan B trains plus our regular A trains "break up" doubles with lengths and axle combos on the a trains of 3 axles to 5 on the front trailer and from 3 to 6 axles on the pup. |
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Alberta, Canada | about 1800 bu of wheat and peas. Or 44 MT |
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Montana | What do you mean 44 MT ? |
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| 44 Metric Tons ( or "Tonnes" )
1 MT = 1000 kg = 2210 lbs. ( figure about 10% more then a "standard" or "short" ton ).
Those trailers, inside, are hopper style, not dumpers, so there is a lot of empty air space underneath the enclosed ends of both. They don't have as much capacity as it looks from the outside.
Edited by BrentOntario 4/16/2015 14:17
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Saskatoon Saskatchewan | clinton005 - 4/16/2015 15:06
What do you mean 44 MT ?
44 metric tonnes or 96976 lbs |
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NE SD | How is it harder on the road ?? Axle weights are same or lower than a common five axle setup, far lower than a spread. |
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Dearfield Co. | Tell me how axle weights in Colorados new little bogus law are the same or lower with the permit----------Also I referenced Nebraska. Check their axle weight ratings. I used them as a example. |
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Huntley Montana | DOT loves them. Bridge laws is the reason they are "uncommon". As long as your not scaled they are nice, but I'm allowed 120,000#& on a A train & I think those are only allowed 108,000# because of the total length. My A trains weigh depending on tractor 31-34,000. They would work ok. |
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deep SW On. | Near me in Ontario they are allowed to use 401 hwy. to pull A train double 53' freight boxes ..... most a trucker ever loaded here was net 2,051 bu. on Lode King B-train ......Cargill was not happy as blanked out there scales and said he can't come back with over 140,000# gross .......... correct axle combo in Mi allows around 163,000 gross.........just fuel / common sense wise all US states should allow a lot heavier wts. |
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Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot | See them all the time here. Although that setup isn't as popular as a 40' lead with a 20' pup. That three axle carriage on the B's tends to get overloaded quickly, they are more spread out on a 40-20 set. 40-20's also track much nicer.
Legally, that setup can get you to 105,500lbs. I don't know what a hopper weighs, but the hay trailers like that are typically around 35,000 empty, so they can net around 70,000. I'd think hoppers would be at least as light. Think NV and ID allow even higher weights, but I don't know if you need more axles or length.
Wish CA would allow something larger. I can get 35 tons on a truck going north, 27 at most on a truck going south. Makes for a lot fewer trips to move the same amount. |
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| We're allowed up to 164,000 here in Michigan. It's nice hauling 2000 bushels at a time. You can really move some grain, and it doesn't take much more fuel than hauling a 1000 bu. |
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Franklin NE | How long is each trailer? Most sets of doubles here are 24 ft each I think. Those look like 34ft or better if so that would be the reason for not being in Nebraska, just to long. Besides I couldn't back them up. |
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Manitoba, Canada | usually 29'. Super b's are reasonable to back up. |
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NE SD | Sorry I was talking about making it legal to pull doubles at legal weights. I HATE stupid permits for people to run heavy on what can be legally loaded. To much political influence that costs us ALL |
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Dearfield Co. | Yeah it sure screws the guys who buy/bring a quad to CO ----------------- |
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B-Trains Hauling Grain in the U.S.?
