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| I'm looking at a 1980 tw30 on a jockeys lot. It has unknown hours, axle mount duals, and weights all around. It appears to be in decent shape. I am wanting to use this tractor for spreading litter with a pull type spreader, and maybe for some light tillage. I was wondering what to look for and what type of experiences people have had with these machines? I have no experience with them, but the price is very attractive. Thanks |
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New Brunswick, Canada | Good friend got one at attractive price. Porous block had to be replaced within a year.
sekcatsfan - 4/4/2015 12:00
I'm looking at a 1980 tw30 on a jockeys lot. It has unknown hours, axle mount duals, and weights all around. It appears to be in decent shape. I am wanting to use this tractor for spreading litter with a pull type spreader, and maybe for some light tillage. I was wondering what to look for and what type of experiences people have had with these machines? I have no experience with them, but the price is very attractive. Thanks |
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Mount Vernon, WA | If you buy it, watch the oil pressure VERY carefully - I'd even go so far as to install a Murphy kit in it. The oil pumps in those engines have known issues. Then there's the block pinholing issues as well. Not as bad on the older TWs as the newer ones, but still a potential issue.
PTO brake, check that close. It may well work one day and not the next. |
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Callao, Missouri | Bern, does this oil pump issue apply to an 1981 TW20 as well? Other than leaks, it has been a great tractor.
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Sanilac Co. Michigan | .. |
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| What's the fix for the pto brake? I noticed it turned for a while after I shut it off yesterday. Thanks for all the replies
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Mount Vernon, WA | Yes it does, although it's not as susceptible to having the problem as the 30 does. Even though they share the same pump, the 20 has more of a volume requirement than the 30 does because the 20 uses a bypass oil cooler, whereas the 30 uses a series cooler.
The problem with the lube systems on these engines is that the pump is simply too darn big for the application, which causes the relief valve to have to work extra hard. Over time, the relief valve wears a groove in the bore, eventually causing it to hang up. When this happens, oil pressure drops to near zero at hot idle.
Ford came out with a smaller pump some years ago, smaller as in about 25% less volume. If you look at the parts book, it lists this different pump as being required for the non-turboed engines. I ordered and installed one once on a TW-35, and it would still peg a 100 PSI gauge when revved up.
To say that the lube systems on these engines are poorly designed would be an understatement. |
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Mount Vernon, WA | Fixing the PTO brake requires a rear axle to transmission split, and most like big $ in parts. The PTO brake system on those tractors were very problematic. |
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south west indiana | Do the 8730 have the same problems? |
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Mount Vernon, WA | Yep. Watch it closely.
Check the parts book and you'll see it uses the same pump. |
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Beaver Dam, WI | Hydrolic pressure on ours test ok but lifts at turtle speed and I do mean turtle like maybe some days I think if I went out and manually lifted the implement I'd get somewhere. We have replaced 3 ford motors over the years. One 9770 which got a brand new Ford motor and another 9770 got a used out of something else. A 7710 a friend has been rebuilt 3x. And their tw20 2x.
I'm not sure on hours for each but I know the 7710 was always short on life.the 9770 we have both were from pitted. I talked to a couple veteran mechanics and they said ford has poor hydrolics. I am also not a fan of the dual power, as it does not shift smooth or have we had good luck with reliability. I had one person told me dirt on the cab floor gets down behind the dual power pedal and can take the dual power out...... I have no idea how that happens or if it's true.
I do know that guys like the fuel pumps as they always want them on their pulling tractors. My brother who pulls says they are the best.
all brands have their issues but I can safely say our tw35 Fwd is one of the High maintenance tractors in the fleet yet it is the newest and only 4600hrs. It now only chops corn 3 row head and disks or digs.
if air don't work she's a hot one like any other tractor.
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Ford TW30, good, bad, ugly?
