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East Central Missouri | We have been using the plastic Bridon 9000 baler twine in our inline small square baler the last couple years. What other brands would you all recommend that would be a better quality twine. We seem to have a lot of issues with the twine breaking or pulling out while still in the bale chamber. We are pulling a 15 bale Kuhn bale accumulator behind a Hesston 7110 inline. We have tried adjusting the bale tension on the chamber, cleaning and greasing the knotters each day, had the dealer come out and adjust, and still cannot figure out why the bales keep breaking. It is a real pain to cleanout with the accumulator attached and 3-4 bales going straight up in the air. Just looking for adjustment ideas or a suggestion on a different brand of twine. This is mostly baling wheat straw and a little grass hay every once in a while.
We have backed the bale tension off since the bales are being pushed out and then straight up into the air through the bale chute on the accumulator. My brother (who runs the square baler most of the time) wants to crack the bales down tight no matter if the bales are falling on the ground or into the accumulator. I have tried to get him to back off on the tension when hooked to the accumulator with the assumption that the bales are too tight, thus breaking the bales... What are your suggestions or experiences. TIA
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Hennepin, IL | No experience with the accumulator, but what is the knot strength on that twine? I know orangeline makes a 120(?) lb knot and a 170 lb knot. We typically use the 120 on hay but straw we'll use the 170 because we've had the same issues as you. NH 575 here, sadly no accumulator. Another thing to check, we had an issue for awhile where the knotters would fray the twine pretty bad about an inch from the knot. Don't remember what the adjustment was, but I know that cured our problem one time. |
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| If the twine is breaking while it is still in the chamber, bale tension isn't a likely problem. Excessive tension or density on the bale will generally only cause the bale to break once it has left the chamber; when the bale is free to expand.
Breaking twine or having it pull from the disc can be a few things:
-twine disc tension is too low; may require replacing the twine disc and/or twine disc springs if the baler has a fair bit of use.
-worn twine tensioners snagging the twine; check that the tensioner plates don't have deep grooves in them
-something in the bale chamber, twine strippers or twine fingers knicking the twine; causing it to fail |
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SW Ohio | 9000 is the length, what is the knot strength?? that makes all the difference in the world. Using 170 here and no problems due to weak twine but some go to 220 just to be sure.
When they break, WHERE do they break? that gives a good clue as to what is wrong. |
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Huntley Montana | The only sale "here" for 9000 twine is for those that are using it in round balers? Go to 170-9600 for a small baler MINIMUM. Had a fellow once grab WR350 baling straw with a 14x18 Hesston, 60-70# bales in Rotary straw. |
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Pedee, Oregon | To light of twine. Bridon makes a 210 twine for two tie. Comes in 6500 or 5000 foot ball. 9000 foot is for round bales. |
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Hennepin, IL | 9000 for round bales? When we had a twine round baler, we used the 20,000. 9000 would've been pretty expensive. |
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Alberta, Canada | Typically 9000 twine (2 rolls of 4500) is only 140 knot strength which can be a real problem in "fluffy" type hay/straw that you need to make real tight. I use min. 170 knot strength twine which Bridon sells in the 9600 packages or in the 7200ft single rolls. I prefer the big rolls as you can fill the baler up with 6 of those and be good for the afternoon. The stuff i have now is 200lb/knot strength twine. I use NH575 balers.
Edited by Larry in AB 3/18/2015 21:28
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East Central Missouri | We have gone to net now, but we only used 16,000 or 20,000 in a round baler. 9000 is for a square baler around here. I have never heard of anyone ever putting the 9000 in a round baler unless they ran out of 16,000 in a pinch. |
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East Central Missouri | I am well aware that 9000 is the length. The stuff we have is the 130#...Sounds like we need to get a higher tinsel strength. We are planning on taking the baler in for a knotter checkup before we start. Hopefully this along with stronger twine will cure the problem. |
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Pedee, Oregon | Sorry. Forgot to hit the sarcasm button. Was more referring to the shape of an inline bale after you rebale it a couple or 3 times. Apparently twine humor is knot well recieved. Ha. |
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Baler twine or bale tension using Kuhn accumulators
