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JEC_62
Posted 3/15/2015 06:28 (#4454389)
Subject: John Deere 7000/7200 Closing Wheels



West Middletown
What is the difference between the 7000 and 7200 series closing wheels??

I have an early 90's Deere 7200 but I think some things have been changed or updated. Right now mine are all rubber wheels and the arm have the eccentric bushing for adjustment of closing wheel assembly. Rubber wheels have 3-4 bolts around the center of rotation.

There is a lot of slop between the eccentric bushings and closing wheel arm. I think I need to buy new busings or a retrofit kit to tighten up the pivot point for reliable tracking.

Also, want to go to one (1) rubber and one (1) spike for no till planting. I need to know what spiked spading wheels will fit.
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PTO
Posted 3/15/2015 06:51 (#4454406 - in reply to #4454389)
Subject: RE: John Deere 7000/7200 Closing Wheels


Northeast Misery
7000 attach with a roll pin. 7200 bolt on.

When ordering your spike wheels, just tell them what planter you have and they will send you the appropriate wheel.
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Herbie56
Posted 3/15/2015 07:15 (#4454432 - in reply to #4454389)
Subject: RE: John Deere 7000/7200 Closing Wheels


Coles County, Illinois
I went with these http://www.shoupparts.com/PF7200/ but I wish that http://www.shoupparts.com/CW1800/ were available back then. What I bought works but I think having the whole thing cast would be better.
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Von WC Ohio
Posted 3/15/2015 08:44 (#4454625 - in reply to #4454389)
Subject: RE: John Deere 7000/7200 Closing Wheels



This is what I have on an early 7200 standard planter. Stamped steel closing wheel brackets with adjustable handle and multiple position slots and eccentric mounting bushings.

You can get new replacement closing wheel brackets at RE Skillings at New Carlisle as well as different types of closing wheel setups.

I tried the one rubber one spiked closing wheel setup that was supposed to work everywhere. Could not get it to work satisfactorily in my conditions. 

There was also a spacer used on the hub when there was a 15" spader used on one side and a rubber tire on the other.

In very dry conditions it was okay but all too often I saw this. Punched holes on one side.

I ended up going back to 2 rubber tires and then tried 1 row of the Dawn curvetines with the 1/2 rate spring and saw much better slot closing. 

This was the results I was looking for. 

In short don't listen to anyone including me on what will work best for you in your situation. You need to really compare several types and styles side by side to see what will work best for you in your soils and conditions.

We have often talked about how nice it would be to have an exchange of different closing attachments that people could try out before buying. The only issue would be getting them shipped to all the people that would like to try them. 

Good luck in finding something that will work for you

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NEILFarmer
Posted 3/15/2015 10:50 (#4454860 - in reply to #4454389)
Subject: RE: John Deere 7000/7200 Closing Wheels


Morris, IL
On 7200 the bushing and the bracket wear out, so changing the bushing will fix some of the play but not all. RK products and Shoup have products that will fix the problem. But if you wanting to run a spiked wheel take a look at this kit from SI distributing. http://sidist.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=2... Don't know why they took picture down, had one last week, but i'll post picture of the one i have which is same as you would need. But basically it converts to the newer system closing wheel system where you use a bolt to hold wheels on and they can be staggered, that is why i bought it to try different closing wheel options. What i found is they use a double bushing system which looks like it will take care of the wear issue. Instead of one bushing and the bracket to wear they have two bushings to replace and should be good as new. More surface area to wear as well. Not too bad a price either if you price new brackets from JD, comes with everything new from the tail back and bolts that will work with your factory rubber wheels for 60$ and i believe just the brackets from JD was $75 and that was 2-3 years ago. I'm kicking myself for going JD route few years ago. I will be switching them to SI as long as they work as expected when our factory are worn out as well.



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JEC_62
Posted 3/16/2015 07:39 (#4456702 - in reply to #4454860)
Subject: RE: John Deere 7000/7200 Closing Wheels



West Middletown
Neil Farmer, those look like Yetter Paddles for closing wheels. Is this correct?

I have been wanting to try those but have not been able to find any at a reasonable price.

My planter is a 15 row so 30 times anything is a lot of money.
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NEILFarmer
Posted 3/16/2015 08:10 (#4456758 - in reply to #4456702)
Subject: RE: John Deere 7000/7200 Closing Wheels


Morris, IL
Yes they are, i mentioned i wanted to try some and an agtalker actually over in your neck of the woods sent me two pair to try. OHfarmer or something like that i believe, fennig equipment i believe. I was kind of upset at the time because they didn't fit our 7200 and he never returned my emails and phone calls but i got it figured out from the help of a regional guy at Yetter and got it figured out. I put one row together with the SI tail and gave other to my relatives to try on their 1760. I think they might really be the ticket for our fall strip till, i'm going to try and get a set of Schlagel Posi Close wheels to try as well. http://www.schlagel.net/pw/pw.html

Your have to forgive me but i don't even know what yetter paddles cost new. I imagine they are not cheap. Becks has had some plots with different closing wheels and the paddles have been near the top which is kind of interesting.
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mhagny
Posted 3/16/2015 09:48 (#4456919 - in reply to #4454860)
Subject: RE: John Deere 7000/7200 Closing Wheels


NEILFarmer - 3/15/2015 09:50 On 7200 the bushing and the bracket wear out, so changing the bushing will fix some of the play but not all. RK products and Shoup have products that will fix the problem. But if you wanting to run a spiked wheel take a look at this kit from SI distributing. http://sidist.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_... Don't know why they took picture down, had one last week, but i'll post picture of the one i have which is same as you would need. But basically it converts to the newer system closing wheel system where you use a bolt to hold wheels on and they can be staggered, that is why i bought it to try different closing wheel options. What i found is they use a double bushing system which looks like it will take care of the wear issue. Instead of one bushing and the bracket to wear they have two bushings to replace and should be good as new. More surface area to wear as well. Not too bad a price either if you price new brackets from JD, comes with everything new from the tail back and bolts that will work with your factory rubber wheels for 60$ and i believe just the brackets from JD was $75 and that was 2-3 years ago. I'm kicking myself for going JD route few years ago. I will be switching them to SI as long as they work as expected when our factory are worn out as well.

You might want to consider using a half-rate spring instead of the heavy one when running two spoked closing wheels per row.  Gives you more adjustment on the lever -- the majority of spoked closing wheels don't require much pressure on them, and using too much pressure can cause problems.  (If your spoked / tined / cage-type closing wheels need lots of pressure, they must be of a design that does more packing than slicing & crumbling -- which isn't good for seedling emergence.)

[Edited one minute after initial posting, for grammar.]



Edited by mhagny 3/16/2015 09:50
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kramerb31
Posted 3/17/2015 08:46 (#4458949 - in reply to #4454389)
Subject: RE: John Deere 7000/7200 Closing Wheels


Humboldt, SD
Copperhead Ag offers a poly spiked closing wheel insert that fits directly on your JD7200 hubs/bearings. They are the same width as the rubber tire, so you can run 2 Furrow Cruisers in any condition. Especially in no-till situations you want 2 spiked wheels to break down sidewall compaction and make sure that the furrow is completely closed. Check them out at: www.copperheadag.com

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