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Freedom, WI | We just got back from looking at an 8110 and I was wondering what are your opinions on this tractor? It has 5 hours on an engine rebuild. Is a tractor with a rebuild less likely to throw a piston than one without? It only has the big 1000 shaft and we would want to run at least the snowblower which only has the 540 shaft. How much hp would you be able to put through the 540 shaft? I can lug our 4440 down in some deep snow and I am pretty sure that does about 140 hp, this one does 186. The 3pt doesn't go down because the guy selling it had it for baling and never had to use it. Will just a bucket be able to push it down or would the seals have to be rebuilt? The wheels would get moved in so we could put duals on. Other than a few things, I really like the tractor. He wants 85,000 for it. Is that a good price? It has 4200 hours on it.
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ECWI | Only 4200 hrs and needed rebuilding? Those 8.1 motors are pretty bullet proof.
I would say poor maintaince or 14200 hrs on it!
Also at that price I would think it should have duals and front weights. Engine warranty with it? I can try pushing 3 pt down with bucket, but some pins may be seized up or cylinders need new seals. Grease everything good first. Can u get previous owners phone number to talk to him about it? That may be the best route.
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Freedom, WI | He said when he saw blowby one night he brought it right to the dealer. It only has 4200. Duals and 1200 lbs front weights are included. There is a 1 year warranty on it and it was rebuilt by the same dealer we work with, just a different store. We met the previous owner at the dealer. It is not dealer stock, but is sitting there. |
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NE ND | 540 snowblower on that tractor will bite. Tried this for a couple of years with a 8310. Main issue isn't that the tractor has too much power, but to get any reverse speed you need to rev up the engine, then the blower is going a million mph. It blows great, but other problems follow. If you buy the tractor, find a used 1000 rpm snowblower, better match anyways. Two years ago I'd say the price was in line, now, maybe a bit too much....but it does have a basically new engine. |
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| +1 on the above post on 1000 RPM blower
On the 3 point, 2 common things I see on these with low usage are:
1. ) Water from a power washer gets in the seals past the ram or cylinder rod, and rusts and expands to make it tight or tight enough the draft links will not go down,
usually, a loader bucket can break these loose.
the worse one is :
2.) the bottom pivot pins get seized to the cylinder base and frame where lower pins go in, its a job that is fixable, but can take a lot of time, torching, or trying to budge those lower pins to get them to come out. Carbon arc cutting works good, if one available in your area. Sometimes welding a large bolt to the pin and using it as a jack bolt or puller can get some out, it will depend on the tractor.
8110 is a good tractor, very dependable around here, nice for visibility, flotation, I would like to replace my 4440 with one.
I am surprised on the rebuild at 4200 hours, I know many 8000 series here with over 5-7 K and a couple with over 10K and still run decent, and shift good.
If the rebuild is from a reputable shop, then should be ready to go. If Deere shop did it , you should have some warranty ....
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Pasco WA. | Just for reference I bought a clean 3000 hr 8110 about 5 years ago from the local dealer for 75k. Duals weights etc. I think the price is too high. Mine has been a good tractor. Don't use it for heavy tillage though. |
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southern minnesota | If you think that is high, the local dealer has a 8100 '98 model with 4,379 hours and is asking $89,569.00 dollars.. |
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| The price is too high, and get an 8000 series with all 3 PTO's. We use all 3 sizes around here, with
2 different tractors. Look around there are lots of tractors out there, and don't be afraid of an
auction. I don't like to see that one has had an overhaul, not a good sign. |
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Dublin, MS | We are the 2nd on ours. It's been a great tractor with over 8500 hours on it. We probably need a overhaul in another 1000 hours. Can't help with price. |
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Central Kansas | As for the 3 point not coming down, I tried the loader on the quick hitch and it would not budge so I figured I had an electrical problem so called the dealer to send a mechanic out to check it out. I was not at home when he came to look at it, called me after he got it to move by jarring the top most part of the lift cylinders and it finally broke loose. Learned my lesson to move it every so often, keep it well greased and watch how I power wash in that area. $$$$ later and I have 3 point hitch again! |
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North Central Illinois | They are a great tractor. We had one years ago and ran it to a little over 6000 hours with no engine issues. Not sure what might have gone wrong there. If you can figure a way to live without the 540 PTO I think this would make a great tractor for you. I would offer him $80,000 and see what happens. Compared to a 4440 you will think you died and went to heaven! |
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Freedom, WI | Okay. So if we were to get a snow blower, who makes a good durable one with 1000 pto? 9 ft and durable as heck to handle frozen cow poop, dirt, etc. for lets say under $4000. Right now we have a Gruetts that is at least 20 years old and has handled just about everything we have tried to blow with it. |
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| Wisconsindairy - 12/13/2014 18:50
Okay. So if we were to get a snow blower, who makes a good durable one with 1000 pto? 9 ft and durable as heck to handle frozen cow poop, dirt, etc. for lets say under $4000. Right now we have a Gruetts that is at least 20 years old and has handled just about everything we have tried to blow with it.
A new heavy built blower 9ft. and 1000 RPM, will cost at least $8,000.
So if you like your blower, get a new tractor with 540 PTO. |
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Saronville NE | Ive got a 8110 w just shy of 11k hrs, original motor, had it compression checked, oil samples sent in an dynoed before got it, was all in spec. Really like the tractor, use it for haying mainly but did put a 843 loader on it this fall ta load manure.
I will be odd man out, price might be tick high, but id rather have a 8010 series then a newer R etc. Longterm they will run cheaper IMO. |
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ecsd | Ok, I'll be the odd duck here and say they aren't that great of a tractor. Look on tractorhouse and there are a lot of 8010's with 3000-6000 hrs. on them and have been overhauled. I know there are a few with over 10000 hrs. that are original, but not many. I would not call a tractor that needed overhauling every 3000-6000 hrs. a "good" tractor, sorry! I think the 8000's had better engines, at least the early ones anyway. My 96 8300 with the 7.6 engine has 15000 hrs. and still going strong! I was going to trade my 8300 for an 8310 because my pto engages hard, but when I saw all the 8010's with overhauled engines I decided to keep what I had. I don't know anything about the 20 series but I would look there, they can't be much worse? |
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| FWIW, I have a SB96 Woods on a 4640, and been VERY happy with performance of it..... friends of mine have SB102's on 8000 series and are happy with them as well, shear bolt protected, all ours are over 12-15 years old already. I think mine is the 1st year you could get a green painted one.
One friend has same blower on a IVT newer 8000' series and says its the "cats meow" and luvs it !
Wet snow will put my 4640 right to her knees and beg ! but it sure gets rid of it though too.
You guys get a lot more snow and ice than we get, or at least I would think so, hopefully others will chime in for advice.
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Eastern Iowa | I wouldn't condemn the whole tractor when they only had issues with the pistons. This one is overhauled = nothing to worry about. Buy it, you will love it. |
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Camp Douglas Wi. 40miles nw of wi. dells | Have 8110 fwd and 3 8410Ts with 56xx to 7000 hrs on them not one engine, tran, rearend, hydra problem, The 8000s are very good tractor but so are the 8010s and little nicer to drive. |
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Saronville NE | Agree have 8300, 8110, 8410 here, the 10s are nicer ta run, at least here the 8300 has had more money spent on it then the 10s so far an it has the least hrs of the 3. |
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ecsd | So are the new pistons the same as the original pistons or have they fixed the problem with them? That would be my concern with the overhaul. You may be looking at another overhaul in 4000 hrs? As far as condeming they whole tractor just because of an engine issue? That is a major part of the tractor and one of the most expensive to repair. |
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MN | Put a 1000 rpm knuckle on your blower and go to work, watch your PTO speed, throttle down to 540-600, when the snow gets deeper and the engine pulls down a bit give it more throttle, be ready to back off when you get through the deep stuff. I did that for several years with a 4255 1000rpm pushing 540 blower. If you have a HD blower you will be fine just don't get carried away and do not forget it is a 540 gearbox. You will have slower ground speed with the engine speed lower. Nice looking tractor and they hold their value. |
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| Have an 8110 and 8310 here and love them. Te series deeres some of the best ever built. Offer 80$ like already suggested, they do hold their valve well for a reason!
As far as your snowblower goes just use your head and throttle down. Put the rpm limiter on so you don't forget.
Good luck |
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Eastern Iowa | Deere has the issue resolved. They helped pay for a bunch of the overhauls. 8110's HAD the most trouble due to lighter duty pistons. Much easier to overhaul than the predecessors. |
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central mn | Deere used to sell the parts to install 540 and small 1000 pto on these tractors, wasn't a hard job. Maybe you can get that kit and still run your 540 blower?? |
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68340 | Took mine off my 8200 mfd and do not miss them a bit. Many of those have been take off here. Bought my tractor used with them on. After a few years I was thinking maybe I don't need those with my machinery size. The hardest thing I pull is a 5 shank ripper in the fall on about 25 acres and a 13 shank Case 5310 applicator. I run out of power before I do traction any day. |
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ND | Wheat77 - 12/13/2014 17:19
The price is too high, and get an 8000 series with all 3 PTO's. We use all 3 sizes around here, with
2 different tractors. Look around there are lots of tractors out there, and don't be afraid of an
auction. I don't like to see that one has had an overhaul, not a good sign.
The 3 PTO's are fine but only with the big 1000 do you have full power to it -on the small shaft 1000 & the 540 you can only get about 120 HP thro them & over this HP a snap coupler breaks to protect breaking the small diameter shaft or tractor pto. The big 1000 is a 1 3/4" pto to handle the 186 HP. Might be better here to have a 540 adapter to the big 1000, or find a nice JD 7810. |
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| jdbob8100 - 12/15/2014 12:36
Wheat77 - 12/13/2014 17:19
The price is too high, and get an 8000 series with all 3 PTO's. We use all 3 sizes around here, with
2 different tractors. Look around there are lots of tractors out there, and don't be afraid of an
auction. I don't like to see that one has had an overhaul, not a good sign.
The 3 PTO's are fine but only with the big 1000 do you have full power to it -on the small shaft 1000 & the 540 you can only get about 120 HP thro them & over this HP a snap coupler breaks to protect breaking the small diameter shaft or tractor pto. The big 1000 is a 1 3/4" pto to handle the 186 HP. Might be better here to have a 540 adapter to the big 1000, or find a nice JD 7810.
I am aware of the sizes. We use the 540 on a PT fert. spreader. Also have used the 540 on
snowblower, and have not had any trouble with the torque limiting collar.
I would certainly not recommend a 540 RPM snow blower idling with 1,000 PTO.
I have had 190 HP pull way down on the snowblower, trying that idling would not work.
Now use a 1000 snowblower on the big shaft. |
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Middlesex County, Ontario | +1, the 81xx is balanced pretty well perfect for power with 0 added weight. No reason to add weight unless you are running 3pt equip.
Edit: then again, I know you're dairy. If you do some mold board plowing in wet compacted conditions maybe keep them.
Edited by WildBuckwheat 12/15/2014 12:58
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