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ne nebraska | Going to look at one in the next few days and wondering what to look for. It is a 1989 model. MFWD. Don't know too much about it yet except it has 7900 hrs. Good rubber. Transmission and front end redone 2000 hrs ago. Previous owner said he changed oil every 250 hrs, and every 1500 hrs did the hydraulic oil, and had it for 3000 hrs. No motor work done that he was aware of. Are these good tractors? Will be trading off a 4640 on it. Thanks.
Also, how is the hydraulic capacity. Have been considering for a couple years now on whether to convert my 16 row to v-sets. Well, this year I am going to do it and I am concerned about hydraulic capacity of the 4640, even though it has the bigger hyd pump on it. Maybe I wouldn't gain anything with the 55 series over the 40 series hydraulic wise? Running two rawson drives and one blower for sure, possibly two.
Dealer is asking $47,000.
Edited by kaky9236 12/8/2014 19:32
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Huntley Montana | Should be able to buy a 8220 with those hours for not much more & have 2x the tractor. |
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Nebraska | Very reliable tractors that will run a long time! What are you going to use it for? My only concern is that if you would get into a large vacuum planter you might wish you had better hydraulics. |
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south texas | Ive had a 4955 since 2010 and like it. Went up from 4840. The 49 has similar power just mfwd and 15 spd trans. Could do without the electronic 3pt but its nice to slow down the drop with heavy stuff. Your price seems high. Loan should be about 35k. I just bought a 4960 and dont recall it loaning over 40k and its a 92. If its super clean may be worth it. Mine hasn't got here yet to see in person. We run a 32r 19in planter with 2 fans. It has mech drives and raises slow on ends when fans are going.
Edited by coastalBend 12/8/2014 19:53
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DE | Great tractor. A pto pump would probally be needed for it though. |
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| You will NOT gain enough in the hydraulic capability, even if the 4755 were new, and the planter will be the problem. Other wise the 4755 is superior to the 46. |
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| You'll like it. The 55 series were great tractors. Have a 4555 and love it never has given much trouble in the years ive had it. |
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ne nebraska | Would not be opposed to getting a 8100-8400, but to keep it in the price I want to spend, am I gonna be happy with a 2wd 8000 series? Will be pulling 16 row planter, 700 bu grain cart, and possibly a 5 shank ripper. |
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Southern Idaho-onion country | I really liked the 4755 I had, however there are many things that the case tractors of that time bested it in. I can't say anything bad about the 4755 at all,but I also had a case 7140 at that same time (1992-1997). Between those two I preferred the 7140 all the way around but again I can't think of a knock on the 4755, solid tractor just not as refined as it's competition of the day. |
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| I think a well prepared 2WD 8000 would easily be capable with normal farming ground conditions and it WILL be capable of picking up the planter at the end of the field, unless you plant in mud. |
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waupun,wi | Just from my experience I run a 4650 on a 1770 not ccs 2 hyd drives and 1 blower it works good but wouldn't want anymore.if it has any motor or hyd issues u will find out when planting.i did and ended up doing an overhaul. |
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waupun,wi | Edit 1770 nt ccs --------- stupid phone |
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ne nebraska | What set-up exactly do you have the 4650 on? Which motors are you using as the hyd drive, and the blower is for the seed delivery i assume? And how did heavy hydraulic use help you find the motor overhaul, overheat? |
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waupun,wi | 1770nt ccs 12 row.hydraulics run 1 vac 1 ccs blower 2 hyd drives and it has markers on it.the drives were new with the planter.yes overheat.i could pull a 13 shank disk chisel but when I bought planter it would overheat.finished planting and that winter found traces of oil in coolant.pulled oil cooler and was good had rad cleaned and cleaned hyd cooler also.pulled head which was where oil was leaking into coolant so decided to put cylinder kits in at 7100 hrs has been like new since.i might add I get along fine with using all hyd functions on planter but everything needs to be tip top. |
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ne nebraska | So you are actually running 2 blowers and 2 hyd drives if I am reading that right? Did have the trans hydraulic pump rebuilt a yr ago. Maybe I need to get a flow meter on the hydraulics and then go from there. |
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waupun,wi | Would not be a bad idea gives u piece of mind.i think U will be OK the 50 55 series are a good tractor.love mine for what it does. |
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Moreauville LA | To put things in perspective, in 1994, I bought a 1989 4755 mfwd, duals, weights, 2800 hrs from american implement for 57,500. |
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Ns/Tr co. Ks | Dad sold his 84 4650 to southwest imp in Kearney ne for $36000 at 3800hrs. Bought 1991 4755 with 200 hrs from moore imp in Chillicothe mo for $62500. This was in spring 1993. Ohh to trade for under $5/hr. This is one of those, "back when times were tough" stories. Even more you couldn't get a dealer to buy a tractor now! |
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 NW Iowa. / SW Arizona | kaky9236 - 12/8/2014 20:05
Would not be opposed to getting a 8100-8400, but to keep it in the price I want to spend, am I gonna be happy with a 2wd 8000 series? Will be pulling 16 row planter, 700 bu grain cart, and possibly a 5 shank ripper.
Traded my 4440 for a 8120 MFWD for a planter and grain cart tractor. You will love the 8000 series cab vs. the 4000 series. I don't think you would have any trouble pulling your planter and grain cart with a two wheel drive. But you will wish you had the MFWD for the ripper. I pull a 5 shank 512 disc ripper with a 8300, no way would I want to try it with a 2 wheel drive. That being said I wouldn't buy another two wheel drive tractor. But if it doesn't meet your budget then don't over extend youself, this isn't $5.00-7.00 times. Good luck. |
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south texas | I have tried to pull my 50ft stacker with my 4840 and it has the power just wont go straight. Never tried the drag planter since it has guided steering that only works with the hydrolic auto steer and 4840 has ezpiolet. I would do a mfwd. If my 4840 was mfwd i would not have bought the 4960. |
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SW Ohio | Get a mfwd 8300/8400 8-11k hrs at auction, ive seen higher hour ones sell around 28-40k.... even if you had to sink 10k in it down the road you would still be ahead..... front axle and hitch on the 8000 are much better. |
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Wallis, TX | IIRC they both have the same 4 cu in pump, only the 55/60 pressure is turned up, and the 3 point will lift more because of this. As to what it will run, I had a 4555 on a 1700 vac planter. I ran the vacuum and two hydraulic pumps with no problems. |
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ND | In engine ability the 55 series is ahead of the 4640, it will develop more power because of more air intake-bigger engine valves but in hydraulics might not be a lot better-here a 8000 series 2wd will be far superior but in pulling a ripper might fall short of a MFWD. Have seen although a 4650 MFWD pull a 1780 24r20 planter with liquid fert tank on a hyd valve being used but in some instances ran out of power climbing hills--so an 8000 tractor MFWD is what you really need!!! |
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