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daddycal
Posted 12/4/2014 08:19 (#4218852)
Subject: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics


Montana
We recently bought and brand new 6140R tractor, All of our older John Deere Tractors had release levers on the remote couplers. This tractor does not. You need to be perfectly lined and push hard to connect and then push and pull real straight to disconnect.

This is really hard for my wife and daughter and is very irritating for me as there is often hydraulic oil splash when we jerk out the hoses.
Does anyone have any good ideas to fix this or make it easier?

Am i the only one who is upset by this?
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Little Duck
Posted 12/4/2014 08:29 (#4218867 - in reply to #4218852)
Subject: RE: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics


South East Illinois
Are you releasing the pressure from the hoses before you unhook them?
Try turning off tractor, turn key to on position and then move levers to raise and lower positions to release pressure.
They can be kind of a pain. The quick hitch is in the way some too and that makes it harder.
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daddycal
Posted 12/4/2014 08:39 (#4218881 - in reply to #4218867)
Subject: RE: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics


Montana
There seems to be no difference if the Tractor is running or not. I tried that and it has electric switches and flow control so there is not hydraulic pressure.
It is really hard with a three point mounted rear blade to get over there to put hoses in straight or jerk them out. I am so disappointed that Deere is forgetting about the users.
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havin'funfarming
Posted 12/4/2014 08:47 (#4218901 - in reply to #4218881)
Subject: RE: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics


Manitoba, Canada
I had the same problem on a 6420 when I got it. It was so bad that I ended up replacing one of them. The new one was a bit better. As time went on they must have worn a bit because they all got easier. Works really good now. But I still wish that they had stayed with the lever type. They always worked so good.
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Little Duck
Posted 12/4/2014 09:07 (#4218935 - in reply to #4218881)
Subject: RE: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics


South East Illinois
They will still have pressure on them with the tractor shut off.
Key has to be on to release pressure.
We had a loader off and had to crack a line to get it hooked up. Ran oil over fender and made a mess................................
Sometimes I wish the people the make this stuff would come and talk to the people that use it.
Changing stuff just to be changing stuff makes me mad.
Good luck,
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daddycal
Posted 12/4/2014 09:32 (#4218980 - in reply to #4218935)
Subject: RE: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics


Montana
Deere and dealers are getting an ear full from me. I bitched so much about the made in China on the hub of new 9770 combines, they removed that on new ones I still think the hubs and final drive are from China and i do not like most Chinese made stuff.
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agronomydave
Posted 12/4/2014 10:24 (#4219064 - in reply to #4218980)
Subject: KEEP IN MIND



Southcentral WI
That when Deere designs their equipment, they not only bring in Deere customers, but they also bring in competitive customers to look for ideas and solutions as they engineer new equipment. Most customers wanted to do away with the levers so Deere listened and followed. If you're that unhappy, ask your dealer to get you involved on some customer research panels. You will have to travel to the quad cities for a day or two and sit in on round table discussions, but they WILL listen to you, incorporate your ideas, and address your concerns. We've sent competitive customers and our loyal green customers on these engineering 'thinktanks' and they all come away pretty impressed as to how the engineers listen and discuss ideas.
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dakota
Posted 12/4/2014 11:00 (#4219115 - in reply to #4219064)
Subject: RE: KEEP IN MIND



SC North Dakota
Had a meeting with JD at Waterloo while taking a tour. Filled out survey and nothing changes. IMHO deere doesn't care what I think or suggest.
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agronomydave
Posted 12/4/2014 11:19 (#4219136 - in reply to #4219115)
Subject: RE: KEEP IN MIND



Southcentral WI
These panels that they conduct are far different from a typical tour/survey. You are brought in as a competitive/current customer and "grilled" for lack of better term over a day or two. They cater in great food, take care of lodging and travel, and are genuinely interested in putting customer thoughts on paper and incorporating them. Every company does this; we've had some of our JD customers brought in to the CIH tractor plant and combine plant for their input and treated just the same. It is not intended to sell these customers on equipment, it is purely designed to pick the brains of competitive/current owners as to what they expect, like, and dislike in their current equipment.
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daddycal
Posted 12/4/2014 12:03 (#4219193 - in reply to #4219136)
Subject: RE: KEEP IN MIND


Montana
I did the gold key tour and loved it but was sad to learn that so much of my American made tractor is not American made. The people there were very nice and I was proud of them. There is so much I did not know about the R series tractors when I ordered it. I like a lot of things about it but there are some fundamental things that i really miss.
Why in the world would anyone not like levers to make connecting easier.

I was a new tractor owner who had the opportunity to do research and development for the Brown Box Autosteer. I like how it works but told them over and over how great Terradox systems worked and how much more friendly the touch screen worked.

John Deere Could have purchased Terradox But instead they made their own. I run a Terradox for mapping in my 8520 and it works well. I have been told that Deere will stop servicing the Brown Box So we have to buy a newer Controller to use our Auto Steer.

I am trying to figure out the mentality of Deere and from time to time I wonder if many in the Company have forgotten about the Farmers and ranchers,.
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The Pretender
Posted 12/4/2014 13:07 (#4219293 - in reply to #4218852)
Subject: RE: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics


The Internet

I've not used a tractor with release levers on the SCV's for years, or a Deere. Why can't you just put the valve into float to release the pressure in the line and pull the hose out of the coupler like on every other brand?

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daddycal
Posted 12/4/2014 13:21 (#4219319 - in reply to #4219293)
Subject: RE: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics


Montana
I can do that but it is very difficult for my wife and daughter and kinda difficult for me with rear blade. I know many people who don't mind jerking or shoving but i do not like it and my wife really does not like it. The 8520 I got in 2004 is wonderful and I want and expect that on my new tractor. Every time I jerk the hoses I get some splash of hydraulic oil. I do not like that .
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KTA
Posted 12/4/2014 13:47 (#4219358 - in reply to #4218852)
Subject: RE: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics


You will be happy to know that the lever release coupler design is on the way back. The valves and couplers are being separated for better vision of the drawbar and the new small frame and large frame 6000 tractors that have been introduced have been changed. Would guess the mid frame sizes will also change.

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daddycal
Posted 12/4/2014 13:49 (#4219363 - in reply to #4219358)
Subject: RE: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics


Montana
I hope I can get them on mine :) Thanks for brightening my day. I love to share the good and the bad and the incredible people in Waterloo made me want to help keep Deere being made in the USA
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The Pretender
Posted 12/4/2014 14:25 (#4219402 - in reply to #4219319)
Subject: RE: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics


The Internet

They can be hard to push in when the weather is cold (which could well be your problem), but other than that they are dead easy and I am a skinny distance runner.

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daddycal
Posted 12/4/2014 14:29 (#4219415 - in reply to #4219402)
Subject: RE: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics


Montana
My wife and daughter would disagree and when I have to shut down the combine to connect the Baler hydraulics we are all kinda sad.
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caleb_brown
Posted 12/4/2014 15:26 (#4219491 - in reply to #4219415)
Subject: RE: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics



West KY
I haven't seen a release lever on a 6000 or 7000 series tractor ever. We have owned 6320, 7410, 7130, and 6140R and none have ever had them. All of the 8000s (8100, 8300, 8295R, 8335R) I have ever been around have them. I agree, they are much nicer. Put them in float and they are much easier.
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shorty1
Posted 12/4/2014 17:24 (#4219650 - in reply to #4219363)
Subject: RE: 6140R John Deere Tractor Connecting and disconnecting hydraulics


I have a 6170[ same tractor] and we have replaced at least three of the couplers.Dealer said there was a problem and replacement was the cure.
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cbm
Posted 12/4/2014 17:58 (#4219714 - in reply to #4219193)
Subject: RE: KEEP IN MIND


central Virginia
Miles away from a pesky hydraulic outlet but imo John Deere is setting its self up for a repeat of the computer battle that Windows/bill gates won so many years ago now. They don't integrate well with others and they are like...oh well. They will get shoved to the side if they do not come to terms that Deere doesn't make the best of everything and some times a red implement will be hooked to a red tractor. Or vice versa
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Survivor
Posted 12/4/2014 18:04 (#4219723 - in reply to #4219714)
Subject: RE: KEEP IN MIND


Moreauville LA
Went through the harvester works this summer.

Showed a "somebody" the made in China on the rear axle pivot that is very obvious.

Oh, we never noticed, but shouldn't matter, I asked about made in USA pride.

His response was, well, it's made in a john deere factory, just it is in china.
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