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arcticcatfarmer
Posted 6/17/2014 16:54 (#3923756)
Subject: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Tip of the Thumb of Michigan

Looking at a goose neck.  Opinions?

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dmax08
Posted 6/17/2014 17:06 (#3923773 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Everything is great on them except the powdercoating. I would rather have paint. The powder starts to flake off as soon as you get a chip. Structuraly I love it. Pulls extremely well even with north of 26k lbs. Mines a 27+5 with 12k axles and hydraulic brakes. Also get the jost 25k lb landing gear.
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fritzy
Posted 6/17/2014 17:50 (#3923816 - in reply to #3923773)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Had a 18' deckover (pull type) that was great. Floor is pine and not oak, but I guess that is typical.
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SR71
Posted 6/17/2014 18:02 (#3923821 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


ECMN
I have a 24 foot bumper pull deckover and it is a decent trailer. The rims started showing rust spots
within 2 years. On the back of the trailer the paint came off from the tires spraying gravel. The trailer
is 6 years old now and the front is starting to rust too.
Where they put the license plate is very dumb the spring from the ramp goes right over it and
beats the crap out of it mine is unreadable.
I think I will buy a Kaufman next time.
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hillskinefarms
Posted 6/17/2014 18:14 (#3923831 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Northern New York
Build quality is great, paint sucks. I own a 20' gooseneck dump and the trailer is very well built but paint is falling off and it's starting to rust. It's a 2011.
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Beethauler
Posted 6/17/2014 18:22 (#3923840 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Michigan's Thumb
Email sent,
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Herbie56
Posted 6/17/2014 18:27 (#3923847 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Coles County, Illinois
I think they're good value for the money. Most of the complaints seem to be paint in northern states that see road salt. My 20 + 5 never sees salt so the paint's still like new. I give the deck a coat of linseed oil once a year and the wood is in good shape.
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German Shepherd
Posted 6/17/2014 18:39 (#3923873 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


I've got a 24' PJ car trailer.    Only complaint is the doors that hold the ramps in rusted and the hinges broke.

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Case IH 9390
Posted 6/17/2014 19:01 (#3923909 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?



North Central Iowa, Humboldt County
I bought a used gooseneck and the paint is falling off. The electric brakes were froze solid and I had to pull off the drums and clean the brakes up and put anti seize on the pivot points to get the brakes to work. It is a good trailer other then this problem.





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SD-455
Posted 6/17/2014 19:48 (#3923989 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Northeast Indiana (Auburn)
They make a good trailer as most as others have said. If you have time to get one you can order one with oak boards instead of the standard pine.
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Franz
Posted 6/17/2014 19:49 (#3923993 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Ohio
Paint sucks...Other than that its been a great trailer. We've got an 08 25' deckover bumper pull.
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Wheat77
Posted 6/17/2014 19:54 (#3924002 - in reply to #3923821)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


SR71 - 6/17/2014 18:02

I have a 24 foot bumper pull deckover and it is a decent trailer. The rims started showing rust spots
within 2 years. On the back of the trailer the paint came off from the tires spraying gravel. The trailer
is 6 years old now and the front is starting to rust too.
Where they put the license plate is very dumb the spring from the ramp goes right over it and
beats the crap out of it mine is unreadable.
I think I will buy a Kaufman next time.


I had a 30ft. PJ gooseneck, and rate it as good, price is right.

Interesting this post, gravel from tires will blast the paint off of any trailer, no matter the make.
If you don't have full truck mud flaps then why would you even mention this one ?
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sricks
Posted 6/17/2014 20:23 (#3924066 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Texas
I have a 34' hydraulic tail and hydraulic landing gear. 12.5 axles and oak floor. Good trailer so far. Have not had any paint issues yet, but sounds like I might in the future. Pulls good. Happy so far. 2012.
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SR71
Posted 6/17/2014 20:28 (#3924078 - in reply to #3924002)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


ECMN
Wheat77 - 6/17/2014 18:54

SR71 - 6/17/2014 18:02

I have a 24 foot bumper pull deckover and it is a decent trailer. The rims started showing rust spots
within 2 years. On the back of the trailer the paint came off from the tires spraying gravel. The trailer
is 6 years old now and the front is starting to rust too.
Where they put the license plate is very dumb the spring from the ramp goes right over it and
beats the crap out of it mine is unreadable.
I think I will buy a Kaufman next time.


I had a 30ft. PJ gooseneck, and rate it as good, price is right.

Interesting this post, gravel from tires will blast the paint off of any trailer, no matter the make.
If you don't have full truck mud flaps then why would you even mention this one ?


Wow! I guess I was not aware you were going to be grading my posts.
The gravel took off some paint then some of the paint not affected by the gravel could be peeled off
as if it had not adhered well in the painting process.
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BryceH
Posted 6/17/2014 20:40 (#3924111 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?



Nunn CO
I have two goose necks from them (a car hauler 24' and a dump style 16') as wells as a smaller bumper pull for this and that. All three have lasted well and seem to be good for the money. FYI the different models have different style rims though, learned that the hard way. The car hauler has wood decks and the dump metal, both as you would expect. Overall I would buy them again.
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diemfarms
Posted 6/17/2014 21:34 (#3924283 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Mifflintown, PA
Agree with the others. Good trailers poor paint. Any sharp corner the paint will start to peel within 2 years (sharp lasered edges). We have a small dump and an equipment trailer. Our local dealer is 10 minutes away and they have sold a trailer into almost every state so the price and supprt for us is great.

Edited by diemfarms 6/17/2014 23:10
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featherfarmer
Posted 6/17/2014 22:34 (#3924464 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Upper Midwest
Own a 2009, yup was sold on the powder coat paint, was told would last much longer than auto paint, started peeling off 2nd year, going to repaint with auto paint soon then it should be an OK trailer. (32 ft goose neck, 12000 lbs tandems)
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dmax08
Posted 6/17/2014 22:54 (#3924512 - in reply to #3924283)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Fayette Trailers?
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diemfarms
Posted 6/17/2014 23:13 (#3924539 - in reply to #3924512)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Mifflintown, PA
dmax08 - 6/17/2014 23:54

Fayette Trailers?


Yeah.
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Grizz
Posted 6/18/2014 07:29 (#3924814 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?



Central Minnesota

24' 14K bumper pull here. 

It was a galloping gert with frame flexing under load (no central torque tube)

Also shorted weight capacity by undersized tires 3K lbs rating vs others 3500 lb rated tires.

Last thing the coupler ball height was much higher than other trailers.

It is sturdy enough welds don't break, just be aware it is not a premium priced product.

 

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braidy
Posted 6/18/2014 08:38 (#3924930 - in reply to #3924814)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


NW Minnesota

Looked at one 2 years ago, the powder coating was already turning purple and starting to rust on the lot.  I was told they are built in Mexico.  I bought a ABU trailer built Dwight, ND.  Epoxy primed and painted & much better build quality.

http://www.abutrailers.com/

This is 20' 10K trailer.

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GM Guy
Posted 6/18/2014 10:15 (#3925049 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


NW KS/ SC ID
we have a few. price is the main selling point. ;) all of ours are straight tail, 14K GVWR. 3 bumper pulls, 1 goose. 3 deckovers, 1 carhauler style.

our 02 20ft deckover BPis kind of a POS. the tounge where it bends is a joke, structurally it has been fine, but I wouldnt trust it at maximum GVWR, as they hack out a portion of the top beam of the ibeam, then try to reweld it together, no plating on the top of the beam. On ours, all there is is slag, ground smooth, and cracked. The jack dropleg pin is right under the basket, a real pain to pull. out the side would have been tons easier.The safety chains were held to the frame by soft rod, and when the trailer came uncoupled (dont ask :) ) it was empty, and the safety chains tore out the soft rod. last time I checked, safety chains should at least hold a half loaded trailer, and should really hold a fully loaded trailer. (Dad has since welded a piece of boxbeam under the front of the tongue, and strung the chain through it.) lots of "crudeness" about it. It is still automotive style paint and incandescent lighting.

our 07 25ft deckover goose is also kind of a POS. the one main beam in the neck isnt even welded square to the ajoining beam, so the trailer sits crooked while empty (right jack touches an inch or two before the other when you unhook) the powdercoat is peeling off in sheets. still incandescent lighting. by 07 they went to the tubular outer beam (a huge plus IMO, very good idea, much stronger, sheds road slop better, shields wiring, looks nicer, might weigh less) and the latch for the chain box doesnt collect rain water (prior goosenecks had the latch in the lid, and it funneled rain water) it also has a rear reciver hitch, which has come in handy many times, and on a goose, is completely legal. no light connector though, IMO if there is a receiver, there should be a light connector.

our 09 26ft deckover bumper pull is the flagship, enough so I got pretty mad when the tongue got bumped by the framerails of the one flatbed 2 ton flatbed truck when turning sharp (put two dings in the Ibeam, no bends, just cosmetic) everything they got wrong on the 02, they fixed on this. forged safety chain links welded to frame, fishplating at the tongue bend, dual jacks, tubular outer rail, better wiring, etc. unfortunately powder coated, but has LED lighting. we have kpet this on off gravel roads and road salt, and the powdercoating is doing good.

our '11 24ft cartrailer bumper pull is also the same review as the 09, no real complaints, many improvements over the older ones.

all of them have Quality brand axles, which are anything but. import everything, flex badly on turns, scrubbing tires, and I am good about taking wide swooping turns at all times, no cramping around ever (big pet peeve of mine, trailers are NOT zero turn mowers) import wheels, tires, etc. very out of balance, the 02 has some obviously off center hub machining as the wheel runs true, but the casting goes up and down. :)

I have heard (and IIRC its even stated on the website) that some sub-assembly is done south of the border in Mexico. not a big deal, but IMO I would rather pay for all american welds.

a friend of ours, whom I worked for in college, had a 2010? PJ 32ft tandem dually gooseneck with a dovetail, low profile. it replaced an 08 or so low profile, when PJ first tried the low pro concept. the first one was a complete failure, scrubbed tires, drug tail, overall very crude and not fully engineered, so he sold it alot sooner than he thought he would This 2010 or 2011 he had later he (and I) loved. everything was perfect, it never dug the tires into the deck, tail rarely drug (they went to geometry class on that tail, thats for sure, worked awesome for dragging dead tractors up on it) the toolbox is like our 07, very deep and the latch is made right. the only complaints were the ****ty Quality brand axles (which according to the PJ website, in the tandem dually trailer realm, you can option Dexters. our buddy's ****ty dealer never gave (or knew of) that option) and the poorly thought out license plate location, as his is dented up as well.

he replaced it with a Circle M, (he puts alot of miles on, and trades so he doesnt have to do tires and brakes) and will be trading again soon, as it isnt nearly as well thought out as the PJ.

So that is our long winded review of our personal and our friends' PJ products! :)


No matter the brand, if you are in the market for a tandem dually, I HIGHLY suggest getting the low pro, its lower, which translates to a much safer tow (lower center of gravity) easier loading, safer handling for the tow rig, less wind drag for safety and fuel economy, etc.

Have you considered a Load Trail? I have no experience with their goosenecks, (we have a small car trailer made by the same company) but I really like the looks of their goosenecks by touring the website: air ride is an option, and I like the all USA built trailer, and USA made LED lighting. Dexter Axles are also standard. http://www.loadtrail.com/detail.cfm?model=GP24&desc=Gooseneck%20Low...


For us personally, we are looking hard at a 30 foot single tire straight tail gooseneck from Kaufman. I saw a hotshotter with one at a truckstop, and it was a good looking unit. Kaufman has two different grades of trailer, a more economy minded line, and a premium/heavy duty/professional line with better wiring and lights, more stake pockets, tighter crossmember spacing, etc.


good luck in whatever you decide!
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nw_bearcat
Posted 6/18/2014 22:45 (#3926100 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


Top middle of MO. land of green hills and grass
I have one of the car hauler trailers. Decent unit, I can see some of the paint issues as mentioned. I also have issues with the welds on the AL fenders.

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Nbuild
Posted 2/7/2022 15:56 (#9487148 - in reply to #3923756)
Subject: RE: PJ trailers, how do they rate for quality?


PJ Powder coating sucks!!!! I have two and would never buy again. My 25 year old painted trailer looks better then my 5 year old PJ.
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