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J.L.
Posted 4/2/2014 22:29 (#3793425)
Subject: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


Iowa
We cleaned up a 1/2 mile of fence row full a mature trees this winter. Got the trees piled/burned/ and remains buried. Went over it with the little track loader and grapple and got the bigger chunks but still have lots of debris on the surface. Have ran a moldboard over it to shear off the roots and and old chisel to heave them up. My plan is to buy a IH row crop cultivator w/vibra-shanks on a sale this weekend. Buy a universal skid steer plate and fab up two arms to suspend the appropriate sized square tubing across the front. Then mount the shank assemblies on it. Since they clamp on/ my thought is they would be easy to slide in or out to get the appropriate spacing. If needed I could mount gauge wheels clear out front too. Open to any other ideas, Thanks
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ledge__
Posted 4/2/2014 22:44 (#3793444 - in reply to #3793425)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


Bobcat and a tine grapple bucket. Also some high school kids. Sandy soils closer together tine bucket, clay soils farther apart. Dig them up and have kids pile them. Then pick up later with same grapple bucket. After big stuff is gone, disc for several years rest will rot of.
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Five Lock Boll
Posted 4/2/2014 23:03 (#3793468 - in reply to #3793425)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


Northeast Louisiana
When there was a lot of clearing going on here back in the 70's, guys would take a 3 point hitch chisel plow and move all the shanks to the back row. Remove the points so its's not digging, it makes a pretty good chunk rake.
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DR J
Posted 4/2/2014 23:13 (#3793474 - in reply to #3793425)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


South central Ks.
We use a old 24ft, 2 row hyd crustbuster. They wouldn't put any straw thru when you tried to work ground, makes for a heck of a good stick rake.
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Mortimer8360
Posted 4/2/2014 23:33 (#3793494 - in reply to #3793425)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


Rio Hondo, Tx
Last year we cleared up 70 Acres of deep brush with a backhoe, then ran a 9 shank V-Ripper and then we got all the roots and trees together with a stiff shank cultivator.
The stiff shank cultivator was a Hamby 28 ft, with 25- 1x3 shanks, all of them in the rear bar, facing backwards and without sweeps or ripper points, it worked pretty good!
Hope this helps
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GDAD
Posted 4/3/2014 00:08 (#3793512 - in reply to #3793425)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


N.E. MO
Sounds like you have the right idea. Back in the day in Illinois, we cleared many, many acres of timber. Tried everything: rock rakes, chisels with all the shanks on the back, etc. Finally made a unit similar to what you're talking about and it was the best. We had it on a tractor loader and did put gauge wheels on it. Being able to strategically curl it like you would the bucket was a big help. Also had a homemade rake we could put on the old D8 and help sift out the dirt when pushing up the burning piles.
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Now_What
Posted 4/3/2014 01:58 (#3793534 - in reply to #3793425)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


Don't use a bulldozer it just breaks the trunk off and leaves the roots in the ground, Just like pulling weeds in the garden is better than hoeing off the tops. Better to lift straight up with a loader or hydraulic excavator with the right attachments.

Here is a walnut orchard that is being removed.. every 30' is a tree row so basically the whole field is a mess of roots and branches. I would never consider using a vibra shank in these conditions it would last about 2' on a good day. We first use a 20,000lb 12' wide Towner Stubble (Clearing) disc, then use a 3 shank heavy duty LeT ripper. I would not use anything with belts after removing trees unless you like to replace them.

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aray63
Posted 4/3/2014 05:39 (#3793584 - in reply to #3793534)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


barry county mi
FOR THE MOSTLY LOOSE THINGS A 5 POINT HITCH SPRING TOOTH DRAG IS GREAT FOR THE FINAL CLEANUP PUT IT DOWN AND DRAG THE STUFF TO THE PILE AND LIFT THE DRAG AND TAKE A TELE HANDLER WITH THE FORKS AND PUSH THE BRUSH ONTO THE PILE WHILE IT IS BURNING TELE HANDLE GREAT FOR CLEANING UP AND BURNING. HOPE THIS HELPS ARCHIE
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illinois-kris
Posted 4/3/2014 06:19 (#3793616 - in reply to #3793425)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


IL
Save the headache and just buy the skid steer root rake. Spartan has them pretty reasonable. We run a 60in wide on our S185 bobcat and wish we had gone wider. If you have already ripped the ground I'd go with as wide as they sell.

http://www.spartanequipment.com/products/Skid-Steer-Root-Rake-Attac...

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Ron swIA
Posted 4/3/2014 06:30 (#3793639 - in reply to #3793425)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


Here is what I use to pickup sticks after clearing. Made from a crustbuster field cultivator.



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Dling_SW_OH
Posted 4/3/2014 06:45 (#3793662 - in reply to #3793425)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


We are just starting doing some our own as well. We used a good heavy offset disc and ground and ground on it. In that fence row, the dirt ended up getting nice and fine. Then leveled with a standard disc. Used a landscape rake to pile up all of the loose roots, came through with a bobcat and rock bucket to load the piles and pile up. Had talked about removing every other tooth from the rake to let some dirt flow through better, but it fills with roots so quick it probably wouldn't have made a difference. Worked pretty slick, and left a nice clean job. There was still the odd root still attached sticking up we went around with the hoe grabbing out while we were working. Don't plan on pulling any shanks through any of it for a few years

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riverbottom
Posted 4/3/2014 06:46 (#3793664 - in reply to #3793425)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


central IL logan co
when I was younger dad bought ground in Farina St.Peter IL. area. From age 8 to 18 I spent some of my summer vacation picking up roots. I hate that job!!!!! Grandpa had a D8 which we still have pushing trees. He would do 5 to 10 acres at a time. We would go down there in July and God was it always hot. Pick up roots put on a old dump bed wagon and take to the brush pile. Two weeks straight we do this. No fancy equipment just two hands,gloves and an ax. Now at 52 I do this at home just picking up limbs in the pasture and guess what I still hate that job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bspf
Posted 4/3/2014 06:47 (#3793665 - in reply to #3793639)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer



N.E. Iowa
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dvswia
Posted 4/3/2014 07:13 (#3793721 - in reply to #3793639)
Subject: I made one too


sw corner ia.
I used a 24' kent spring tooth that looks like your crustbuster. after all the roots are broken you can run around with that and sweep everything that isn't dirt right up. I spent 120 bucks at a sale for it and moved all the shanks onto the back row. It has cleaned a lot of tree infested ground up and works very well.

forget the high dollar skid steer attachments, they are at best 8' wide. this will clean like you can't believe.
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farmn4nutn
Posted 4/3/2014 07:27 (#3793755 - in reply to #3793664)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


NE KS
Just did that last week. Between my brother and me and our 8 kids, we had it done real fast, with just a little bit of bitchin
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greg33
Posted 4/3/2014 10:00 (#3794090 - in reply to #3793534)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


I'm guessing those pictures are in Tulare county?
Do you grow for Diamond?
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Now_What
Posted 4/3/2014 15:25 (#3794634 - in reply to #3794090)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


Those trees were on the Westside of the Northern San Joaquin Valley. The trees that were pushed over in the last picture had a Diamond contract when they were planted in the mid 70's however when that block was pushed over that was the last orchard that was with them. Now we are back to being private label packers running through a vegtable packing operation in the Salinas valley region.
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RodInNS
Posted 4/3/2014 19:33 (#3795044 - in reply to #3793425)
Subject: RE: Best way to clean up roots behind dozer


What we've generally done... rake it with a close spaced root rake such as the old Balderson's. Tips are mabey 1' spacing. Then we'd chew on it with an offset. Make a few cuts. Then rock rake it with a Degelman rake. That will gather up a lot of stumps that are left and the offset will grind up most of the small stuff. There's no free lunch in this game. Perseverance is required...

Rod
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