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bollpuller
Posted 2/10/2014 07:37 (#3678051)
Subject: Ford dual power?



Grandfield, Ok.
How much constant shifting can the ford dual power take? Is it as tuff as the case 3 speed power shift or the allis power director?
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johnwayne360
Posted 2/10/2014 08:18 (#3678141 - in reply to #3678051)
Subject: RE: Ford dual power?


near dyersville iowa
nt

Edited by johnwayne360 2/27/2014 06:09
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German Shepherd
Posted 2/10/2014 08:19 (#3678146 - in reply to #3678051)
Subject: RE: Ford dual power?


I had a TW-25 for over 10 years and never had a spec of trouble with the dual power.    I had a loader on the tractor, so the dual power got used a lot, but it also rarely got shifted under a heavy load either.

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Jason_WI
Posted 2/10/2014 08:46 (#3678219 - in reply to #3678051)
Subject: Re: Ford dual power?



NE WI
Using the dual power in road gear to slow down is not recommended. When using the 8700 on the CIH 8312 discbine I would use the clutch and then shift the dp to low and release the cutch on the end rows. With that said shifting under heavy tillage or heavy loads with our Houle spreader never caused any problems with our 8700, 9000, or TW30. 11,400 hours on the 8700 and the dual power has never been touched. We have owned this tractor since new.
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John SD
Posted 2/10/2014 12:00 (#3678727 - in reply to #3678051)
Subject: RE: Ford dual power?



I don't know how Dual Power compares with Case or AC power shifts, but I'd put money on the Ford design being light years ahead of the IH TA.

Got a 8600 and a 9600. The 8600 DP got new seals when they were in there for other stuff. Broken shift fork in the main tranny was the problem it went in for. Still had 3-4 which are also 7-8 depending on if in L or H range. Couldn't use lower gears or reverse.

Drove 70 miles to town with no incident. Shop guy told me if I heard any funny noises better go to Plan B. That was 15 years ago.

The 9600 DP was acting up some time before the tractor went in for a clutch job. I can't remember right now just how much was involved or how much it was for the DP alone.

The total bill at the dealer for new reman clutch, PTO, and DP repair on the 9600 was right at $7K. Yes, more than I paid for the tractor.

The dealer also worked around the Waldon dozer that went to town with the tractor. I visited the tractor in the shop and it was in 3 pieces with the dozer sitting on the floor underneath.

Like Sheep Herder, I've always avoided shifting the Dual Power under heavy load. But I really don't think it would hurt it at all. If Dual Power is working correctly, the shift is rather crisp from low to high. The 9600 would almost roll to a stop before the shift engaged. Not good. Works like it's supposed to now.

Also it says in the owner's manual to run DP in low in cold temps for better lubrication until things get warmed up.
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Bern
Posted 2/10/2014 12:24 (#3678781 - in reply to #3678141)
Subject: RE: Ford dual power?


Mount Vernon, WA
Ford Dual Power units are pretty tough actually. This assumes you have adequate operating pressure and lube flow from the hydraulic system.

It is perfectly fine to use the DP as a brake, as it does not have an overrunning clutch in it. The only thing you can't do is rely on it to park the tractor with the engine off. It WILL roll!
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jcfarmboy
Posted 2/10/2014 12:28 (#3678789 - in reply to #3678051)
Subject: Re: Ford dual power?



South Western Ontario, Canada
I just did the dual power in our 9600 and it was not much over $1000 to replace. Nice tractor and would not be bit scared of it!!
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DanofWI
Posted 2/10/2014 12:33 (#3678801 - in reply to #3678789)
Subject: Re: Ford dual power?


53590
Those dp are great have a tw 25 with 13,000ish hours on it and never touched the dp or motor for that matter. Know a few guys here that pull a couple tw 20's with genesis motors in them cranking out alot of power and they still use the dual power!!
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