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| I have been looking at buying a 4630. However, I don't know much about them, or how much it is worth. If some of y'all could tell me if y'all have had any problems with it and all. I was also wonderin if someone could tell me about how much it is worth. The tractor is a 1975, enclosed cab, 2 wheel drive, with 4500 hours on it. Please let me know.
Thanks
Edited by SCPeachFarmer 1/30/2014 06:41
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| you can almost bet that its 14500 hours. good old workhorses if they've been taken care of. value 8 to 20 depending on condition and how its equipped. |
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East Central Iowa | I had a real nice 1977 powershift and loved it. We just out grew it. It had 10k hrs but it had some engine work of some sort before I owned it. It had all kinds of power and was real reliable. I paid $14,000 when I bought it ten years ago. It had been repainted and had good tires when I bought it. I would have another one if I had a use for it. |
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| The hours seem low for a tractor that age. They were a great 150 HP tractor in their day. Excellent cab for the 1970's era. If hours are correct it could be worth ballpark $18-20,000 if nice. If tach has been replace then $7-14,000. Getting to be an old tractor with limited hyd, single PTO, spring ride seat, small cab. Probably done depreciating. |
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Northwest Ks | Remember they only have 1000 pto if that is an issue. Some were notorious for over heating as well as the typical 30 series cold blooded problem. |
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Southwest Iowa | I had one and all I did was work on it for 3 years. I had way more money in it than it ever would have been worth (long story really). Mine had around 10,2xx hrs on it when I traded it for a 4650. They gave me more for trade than I gave for it. Which didn't really matter to me because I had a pile of money into it and it was going to need more pretty soon. Look at a 40 or 50 series if you can. For not a lot more money you can have a way better tractor.... |
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| Just because you bought one that was wrung out doesn't mean they were a bad model. Same thing can happen after spending more for a 40 or 50 series. When it comes to this old stuff its more about condition than the number on the hood. |
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Coles County, Illinois | I have a 1974 with the Quad Range trans and 6700 hours on it. Put a new radiator in it this summer as the one it had in it was only flowing 65% of spec. I also put in the smaller waterpump pulley from Deere's cooling kit. This allows the fan to run 10% faster. So Deere knew that they were under-cooled. It's also cold natured but not near as bad as the 4230's we had. I think they are misunderstood as to what they are. I think they're a faster 4430. They have a longer wheelbase and the gears are .5 mph faster. If you have 42's on the rear they're even faster yet. Back then Deere had the 6030 for the real heavy loads that I used to see guy's try to pull with them.
Deere has a nice air ride suspension for the stock seat and an ISO conversion for the SCV's is a good addition as well. The 404 is more thirsty on fuel than the 466. Parts are still very available as are aftermarket Air conditioner parts. I'm running 190 hp on it as many came from the factory that way. The anechoic compensation has been defeated so it has good power down to 1800 rpm. I'd consider new mains as part of the deal as the 404's were know to need changing every 5000 hours. It doesn't use enough oil between 100 hour intervals to warrant adding any but will weep some oil from the head gasket on the right side. Deere offers updated bolts and gasket to solve this but I haven't done this on mine. The tractor's 40 years old so here there and yonder I've had to replace o-rings, hoses and wiring. Deere wants a fortune for their gauges so as they fail I've replaced them with aftermarket parts. I also use a walkman with Bose noise cancelling headphones.
If you're looking for a 4430 and don't need 540 PTO it's a good buy as there aren't many low houred 4430 left. If you're wanting a truly beefy tractor a 4640 is a better choice.
EDIT: Smaller waterpump pulley
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| We have one with over 10k hours early model straight 8 transmission and open station it stays hooked the spreader year round and absolutely love it. Have done minimal work I overhauled the engine when we bought it and have rebuilt the hydraulic pump other then that very dependable |
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Central Arkansas | We sold one last month for 7K. It was a PS, ran good, lots of hours, good rubber. No one could fix the air conditioner. After several visits by JD mechanics and lots of dollars, I finally gave up. Maybe we could have sold it for $8500, but we were motivated sellers. It powered a cotton module builder, rice levee smoother, fertilizer cart, and some bush hogging before it got too hot in the cab around 10 AM. It was our main work horse a few decades ago. |
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Macon, IL | Good tractor, quad range is pretty low risk as any tractor of that age. Like others said only 1000 pto and cold blooded. But I had one for several years-good tractor-would own another. Fought the AC a little bit but finally just dumped a ton on money ($600?) and put whole new AC in myself and it was good after that.
Check tires for values-good set of skins can be close to half of value of the tractor on that era/machine.
I am betting 14,500 not 4,500. Check wear on pedals and drawbar if you can derive anything from that.
That is a lot of hours if engine/clutch had nothing done. If they have then probably ok.
I would say $12,000-$17,000 depending on tires/paint. |
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Cleveland, MS. Own small farm near Booneville, MS | We had one for a few years; cab with syncro transmission. According to the dealer mechanic who delivered it, it was turning 190 hp on the dyno. Heaviest things we pulled with it was a 20' IH 475 disk and a 21' JD field cultivator. In 5th gear at 6+mph you couldn't tell either one was back there. We did have to have the 4640 kit installed in the rear end. I've slept since then so I can't remember what all caused that. We had no A/C, engine, or hydraulic problems. In fact, it took a pretty hot day (95*+) to run the A/C at full blast. It also carried a full rack of front weights plus 400 gallons of water in saddle tanks and an extra 50 gallon fuel tank mounted over the front weights. |
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| The owner said it only had 4,500 hours. Would it still be worth the same amount??
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| It only has 4,500 hours, or that's what the owner told me...here's what it looks like
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Coles County, Illinois | The most I'd pay for one fully equipped would be 20,000. Rear tires look ok but no duals (-3000) missing some front weights (-500) Can't tell much more so assume everything else is good. So Max would be $16500. |
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| Alright thanks |
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Coles County, Illinois | Like we've said cooling is a weak point so look inside the radiator. Also look at where the tubes attach to the upper and lower tanks. If you see any white there then the tubes are corroded. I put the best radiator I could find in mine and it cost almost $900. The fan pulley and new shorter belts were another $150. I did the work myself but really didn't have anything else going on. Any gauge not working is worth $100 per. |
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Macon, IL | That is a rare find. If tires were good could go up to 20. But I wouldn't go much higher-for 25k you can get a decent 4640 which is a lot more tractor. At 4500 hours should be a lot of life left. |
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| Where'd you get your radiator from..online?? |
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Coles County, Illinois | I got it from a very busy radiator shop in Effingham Illinois. I probably could have saved some money but they have talked me out of replacing other radiators and are considered by many to always do the right thing. They said the replacement would have better cooling than the stock but I can't tell you exactly why. They had already flow tested it so it's only fair to buy one from them. |
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| Do you know if it would be possible to just put in a bigger radiator like one for a 4640 or 4650?? Or do you know the brand that they out in yours?? |
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Illinois | It looks to be in decent shape,.... You might want to check the VIN number to see what year it actually is. We had several 4630's, the early ones 1973 models had the suitcase weights on the front like that one, the 1974, and 1975 both had flat weights like a 4020. Maybe they offered both styles of front weights at that time 1973 - 1975. |
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| Alright thanks |
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Illinois | The main thing is to keep the radiator clean, and put the fan speed up kit on. On a hot day we would take the side screens off to allow more air flow, you just can't do that is you have stalks, or debris that will block the actual radiator. The biggest pia keeping one cool was planting soybeans on a hot day pulling a JD vac planter. Operating the hyd fans on the planter creates a lot of heat, and the hyd. cooler is right in front of the radiator which makes it run hotter. Good Luck |
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| Thanks for the help |
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Coles County, Illinois | The whole frame of a 4640 is wider. So one of their radiators would look goofy. What are you planning to use it for? My heaviest load is pulling a 26 1/2' DMI Field Cult. when it's 90 degrees outside. I want to run in C2 near 7 mph. |
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| I would need it to pull an orchard sprayer, box scrape, plow some fields...and possibly put a loader on it to set out hay, and to bale hay, so nothin to big |
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East Central Iowa | I would say that one is a 73' or 74' due to the pre-cleaner in front of the muffler. I think they moved it behind the muffler in 75'. If that was a change over year maybe it is a early 75'. |
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Coles County, Illinois | The loader option makes the 4640 and 4650 a poor decision. The tractors are fine but very few loaders where built for the wider frame. The 4630 frame width allows 48,58,148,158 (recomended) ,some of the 700 series stuff and a whole slew of aftermarket loaders. |
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Weatherford, OK | +1 |
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