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Ed Winkle
Posted 2/24/2008 09:50 (#317965)
Subject: What was the best selling tractor of all times?


Martinsville, Ohio

This is not a quiz, but answering the baling tractor question below I got to wondering.

Which model sold the most?

I would guess the 4020 but I really don't know.

If you got thoughts on why it was number one, I would like to read that.

Ed Winkle

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Cliff SEIA
Posted 2/24/2008 09:54 (#317967 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: RE: What was the best selling tractor of all times?


I'd say the Farmall H or M would be near the top of the list but it seems like maybe the 8n was #1 but it took alot more of them to get the job done.
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Oliver1
Posted 2/24/2008 09:55 (#317968 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: RE: What was the best selling tractor of all times?



Alton, Ia
Unless you define some measurement, this is probably going to lead to a pretty good color war.

Most likely number would be units sold, but where you'd find that info, I don't know.

One measure could be number of years sold. The Oliver 550 was made for something like 20 years, if you count the Super 55 model. Very few design changes made during that time frame.
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farmdude
Posted 2/24/2008 10:05 (#317977 - in reply to #317968)
Subject: Re: What was the best selling tractor of all times?


I would almmost be sure it was the Farmall M. made that tractor for 15 years if you count the Super M an MTA. MTAD. MD. The 4010s were made for three years 1960-63. 4020s from 64-72. 8 years. Still have Dads original M bought in 1949. Still using it today.. They were a tough well built tractor that rarely gave problems. I think IH kind off owned the tractor market in the 40s an fifties.
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Jon Hagen
Posted 2/24/2008 10:10 (#317985 - in reply to #317977)
Subject: Re: What was the best selling tractor of all times?



Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND
The fellows on an antique tractor site claim it was the little Ford 9N-2N 8N. for US made.

Edited by Jon Hagen 2/24/2008 10:11
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york
Posted 2/24/2008 10:10 (#317986 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: RE: What was the best selling tractor of all times?


Berlin, Germany
Ed,

what you are looking for? Most sold tractor in the US or in all history world wide? I only can say that it will be one of:
MF 35 hp, over 5 mio. build
- or Belorus, which are still build

York-Th.
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JHEnt
Posted 2/24/2008 10:11 (#317988 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: RE: What was the best selling tractor of all times?


Southern Illinois
I had read one time that there were more Fordson's made than any other tractor model. I can't remeber what book that was printed in. Was some antique tractor book.
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Don NMO
Posted 2/24/2008 10:26 (#317995 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: Not even close Ed



The Original Lock Springs Rver Rat
There were around 75,000 4020's built,the 'A' had a production of 300,000
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Trent2520
Posted 2/24/2008 10:28 (#317997 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: For a single year or total production of a model?



Statesville, NC
If a single year I would guess a Ford 8N or Fordson. Later years will not compare because of the size of the tractors and fewer needed. It would be interesting to see a chart of the best selling tractor for each year throughout history.
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John SD
Posted 2/24/2008 10:30 (#317999 - in reply to #317977)
Subject: and in earlier years....



I just read an article in the "Green Sheet" about the McCormick-Deering 15-30. 160,000 of them were built from 1921-1934. They were also built in Russia in the 30's and many still in use in the 80's.

IH built the McCormick-Deering 10-20 from 1923-1939. 295,000 of them.
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Trent2520
Posted 2/24/2008 10:30 (#318000 - in reply to #317997)
Subject: North America or Worldwide?



Statesville, NC
That would be an interesting comparison too.
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lars-PA
Posted 2/24/2008 10:32 (#318002 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: Interesting Link


Central PA
Here is some food for thought. It looks like the 8n beat the H and JD A/B by a longshot, though I would not question the Fordson being number one. Though the figures are not completely accurate (I don't Deere made exactly 300k B's) they seem to be in line with what I have read. However, I was under the assumption that the JD B and its variants outsold the A. Does anyone know on this one?

http://www.antiquetractors.com/Research/prodnum.htm
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Steiger Man
Posted 2/24/2008 10:34 (#318006 - in reply to #317995)
Subject: Neither are you


Sunburst Montana
There were ~27,000 4020s built in 1966 and over 200,000 built over all.  Best all time selling tractor in NA would have to be the Fordson.  I think there were over 700,000 units built.
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Paul(WI)
Posted 2/24/2008 10:35 (#318007 - in reply to #318002)
Subject: RE: Here's another



Some production numbers but also just some browsing history.
http://www.livinghistoryfarm.org/farminginthe50s/machines_01.html
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Don NMO
Posted 2/24/2008 10:37 (#318009 - in reply to #318006)
Subject: is this bad info?



The Original Lock Springs Rver Rat
http://www.tractordata.com/td/td64.html
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Steiger Man
Posted 2/24/2008 10:40 (#318013 - in reply to #318009)
Subject: Yep


Sunburst Montana
Its well documented JD built more then 75,000 4020s.  In fact, that number 75,000 sticks in mind from somewhere and I think thats how many 4010s were built.  Not sure on that one though.
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JDEEREMAN
Posted 2/24/2008 11:24 (#318038 - in reply to #318007)
Subject: Re: What was the best selling tractor of all times?


Eastern ND
It is amazing that this number can not be found by someone. All this guessing is interesting, but there has to be some hard data somewhere on the net.
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Ed Winkle
Posted 2/24/2008 11:26 (#318041 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: No color wars intended!


Martinsville, Ohio

I thought Don was right with the A until I thought about the Fordson.  This is a worldwide page so the MF-35 would be awfully hard to beat.

I guess you could divide it between US and whatever or North America or whatever but I doubt anything comes close to 5 million worldwide.

Isn't that design still made in Asia somewhere?

Talk about a super Fordson...

Thanks for the replies.

Ed

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Plow79
Posted 2/24/2008 11:35 (#318053 - in reply to #317968)
Subject: Tractor data has a production run top ten list.



Chilliwack BC
http://www.tractordata.com/td/topten.html

I am not sure how accurate this is. There are discrepencies in their number produced accuracy.
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JohnW
Posted 2/24/2008 12:27 (#318097 - in reply to #318041)
Subject: Fordson...


NW Washington
My guess goes to the Fordson. Henry Ford just about had a lock on the US market for a while and sold a lot of these things in the 1920's. They moved the plant ot Ireland for a while and then England and sold a lot more of them. Here is a cut and paste from Wikipedia on Fordsons'

"Mass production of Fordson model F started in 1917. The Fordson came at the end of the First World War with its manpower shortages in agriculture, and utilizing Ford's assembly line techniques to produce a large number of inexpensive units, it quickly became the dominant model. Three-quarters of a million tractors were sold in the U.S. alone in the first ten years. Thousands were shipped to the United Kingdom and the Soviet Union where local production was soon started. Fordson had a 77% market share in the U.S. in 1923 before facing increased competition from International Harvester Corp.

Fordson Model F's were made in the U.S. between 1917 and 1928. They were produced in Cork, Ireland between 1919 and 1932 before production was consolidated at the Dagenham, factory in England, which built Fordsons between 1933 and 1964. 480,000 Fordsons were built in Cork and Dagenham between 1919 and 1952"
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 2/24/2008 12:29 (#318098 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: RE: What was the best selling tractor of all times?


Central ND
Didnt the model D jd have a long series of years of production also?I doubt they were at the top of the list for total production though,
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commissioner
Posted 2/24/2008 13:54 (#318164 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: RE: What was the best selling tractor of all times?



southern Illinois
Ed I have no idea but a jd dealer told me once that the 4430s were jd most selling tractors accourding to serial #s and the 4555 was the lowest . I found that hard to believe on the most but have no proof one way or the other.

Edited by commissioner 2/24/2008 13:56
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Grow
Posted 2/24/2008 14:28 (#318192 - in reply to #318164)
Subject: Re: What was the best selling tractor of all times?


Ford/Ferguson.

Harry Ferguson grew up just down the road from where I was born in Ireland.
He invented the three point hitch and made a handshake agreement with Henry Ford to go into production with the Ford Ferguson tractor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Ferguson
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msb
Posted 2/24/2008 15:12 (#318229 - in reply to #317995)
Subject: RE: Not even close Ed


Lapel, In
Does that include all those built in South America, Don.? Deere had a habit of shipping all the old tooling & molds etc. to S.A. after discontinuing production in the States. I used to know how many years the 730s were built down there, but its gone from the old gray matter now.
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Ernie
Posted 2/24/2008 15:22 (#318234 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: Have to separate in to types of farming



North End I-15
Not too many people farm here with a 4020 or a fordson or a WD Allis . They are chore tractors . :>)
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Jim in MN
Posted 2/24/2008 20:31 (#318428 - in reply to #317999)
Subject: RE: and in earlier years....


My dad had a 10-20. Jim J
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plowboy
Posted 2/24/2008 21:04 (#318461 - in reply to #318009)
Subject: RE: is this bad info?



Brazilton KS

Don, I don't have numbers real handy, but I don't think 75,000 would even cover the console 4020's. There were around 20,000 4000's built.

 

Tractordata seems to have a hard enough time just getting the hp right, I would probably not consider them to be an authoritative source on much of anything.

 

edit:  MacMillan and Harrington's John Deere Tractors and Equipment Volume  Two 1960-1990 says "over 200,000 4020's were produced."     I have found their work to be pretty accurate as a rule, at least in comparison to most other stuff out there. 



Edited by plowboy 2/24/2008 21:14
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3688
Posted 2/25/2008 00:16 (#318681 - in reply to #318234)
Subject: Re: What was the best selling tractor of all times?


S.E.South Dakota
I would have to say a H or M farmall.I think a John Deere D would be close for the Lower 48 States.
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Larry NCKS
Posted 2/25/2008 04:21 (#318712 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: RE: What was the best selling tractor of all times?


Washington, Kansas & Lincoln, Nebraska
If you're speaking specific model, I'd have to say it'd be hard to beat 534,000 8N Fords.
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Mark (EC,IN)
Posted 2/25/2008 06:45 (#318725 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: RE: What was the best selling tractor of all times?



Schlegel Farms, Hagerstown Indiana
Can't remember where....but I read the MF TO-35 was the number one selling tractor in the world. Lot's in the US, and more overseas.

.................................Mark
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Dan_wcIN
Posted 2/25/2008 14:35 (#319072 - in reply to #317965)
Subject: Fordson Model "F" production



It made a Crop
Tractor Data says there were 755,278 Model F's built (747,681 in USA, 7,597 in Ireland)

The Big Book of FORD Tractors says there were 850,000 Model F's built in Detroit during there 10 year Run.


In 1921 there 200,000 tractor sold in the US, built by 160 companies. Ford sold 67,000 Model F's in 1921. Mostly by cutting the price from $785 - $395 to move Tractor during a Recession. The Price War left only 10 tractor companies.






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