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| I have a Case IH 9250 tractor and a converted cat 60 scraper. Just got scraper late this summer and have done some playing around. It became obvious that this combination would be very useful to fix a lot of wet spots in fields by fixing ditches and leveling off old fencelines with some guidance.
What is the best way to go (gps/laser) and price differences for auto control vs. manual control. I'm assuming that there would need to be a remote mount valve for any auto control with this tractor.
I have a couple fm750's and a ezguide 500 but I don't think they can be used for this application??
Thanks,
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Gilby,ND | almost same situation a few years ago, started out with a laser, by the end of the fall i traded up and since we had JD GPS i made the jump and upgraded and went to GPS ditching with AGPS Ditch Pro, you would not believe the difference in speed it makes and you move so much less dirt, it will step you down not just a to b like laser, and if people complain you have a map to show that you are not changing elevations just taking out high spots, it was a very expensive jump but in the long run well worth it and now i have RTK for the rest of my operations, once you go to RTK there is no going back in my opinion. |
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South central MN | The only Trimble display that will run wm drain or feild level II is the fmx/fm1000 at this point. The new disay (2050) will be able to but no time table on that. I have never used laser so I can not help there. We have a fair amount of customers that switched from laser to GPS and they all seem to like it. To use GPS you would need to add a control valve on the scraper. If you already had a steering system in the tractor you could use that for steering while using the scrapper. That would save unlocking the second receiver in the fm1000. You could also manually steer the tractor while running it if you wanted. |
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NW MN | We run trimbles wm drain on ours. I like it but JD and Ditchpro have the edge by being able to see elevation maps right on the screen. In our relatively flat country it sure would be nice to be able to see the low spots on the screen while ditching. But the system works good and is fairly simple. We have the auto valve and second receiver, if you're going to spend the money for gps I would get both. I would go to your local dealer to check but I would guess you will run about 18k if you're getting the screen, unlocks, receivers...ect. We run with out a base station and have been happy, but if you have to get that too I think they're about 12k alone |
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NE South Dakota Clark, SD | Your 750 or 500 could be upgraded to RTK and export to AGPS ditch Pro. You could Topo map the fields design your ditches with GK Technology ADMS and then load this design into AGPS. I feel the best part of this setup is it also shows your depressions. When the scraper is full, you drive to the nearest depression and dump the dirt there.
As far as Laser vs GPS, you will move much less dirt with GPS. Laser is a straight grade, unless you stop and change the grade manually. And you have to calculate all the grades and grade breaks. GPS will calculate the grades and change them automatically.
If you have any questions, my email and phone is in my profile.
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Gilby,ND | +1 for GK technology, Kelly is great to work with and Lidar completes the GPS scraping system |
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NE South Dakota Clark, SD | There is not any LIDAR out in Western SD where it looks like tdschenk is from. Most of Eastern SD has LIDAR, except right where I live. The fields would have to be driven to get a topo map, but all it takes is a little time. |
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Gilby,ND | I thought everything was Lidar by now but I guess not, it's amazing how accurate it is |
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| nope, no Lidar out here, no rtk either. |
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NE South Dakota Clark, SD | It is best to have your own base for any vertical work. Most of the industry recommends a base less than a mile away. This maintains the sub inch accuracy on the vertical axis. There are quite a few options out there, if you want, you can call and pick my brain if you like. |
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laser or gps for scraper
