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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | Reddirtfarmer's post below got me to wondering what brand of cattle waterers you recommend?
I am needing to install several in some pastures and in some new lots.
I do not want to run electricity to any of them.
Most places will have a two inch pvc line from a well feeding them, others will be below ponds.
Here is what I have been using and they have been reliable, a lot of them go 10 years without being touched. But I don't like how you are supposed to have a big pile of dirt on the back. My cows walk it all off and I wish it was just a flat concrete top.
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SW, Missouri | We always built a little panel pen behind ours so the cattle won't walk the dirt off. |
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NW Missouri | Cobetts. Have really worked well for us in a lot or in the pasture. They have a high pressure and a low pressure (pond) system. We have used only the high pressure system. |
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southern MN | Mine is fed from a cistern, low pressure system. Works great.
Paul |
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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | Are they the LB model or the SB model? |
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versailles mo | U got the best I have probably 15 of them. They are made about 10 miles form me. I build a little pen on the back around the dirt. They are a little hard to clean out but they are really good in cold weather. |
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NW Missouri | I think they are LB (large bowl) to allow more animals to drink at one time.
Side note: Do you live on Olivet east of Columbia? |
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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | B2NMO - 11/25/2013 14:53 I think they are LB (large bowl) to allow more animals to drink at one time. Side note: Do you live on Olivet east of Columbia?
How many can actually water at one of the LB's? It says on the website: 200 in a lot, 100 in a pasture. Does that sound right?
SIDE NOTE: Not any longer! I owned 15 acres on Olivet Road where we ran a tree service many moons ago. Then the neighbors were willing to pay enough to make us go away, so we moved it up to Rangeline road and built a building on the old softball fields, then I sold out in 2004.
I am glad to be out of Boone County. Fun place to visit, go to Mizzou games, shoot sporting clays, eat out, etc... not so fun on a daily basis. |
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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | smile-n-cow - 11/25/2013 14:15 U got the best I have probably 15 of them. They are made about 10 miles form me. I build a little pen on the back around the dirt. They are a little hard to clean out but they are really good in cold weather.
I just got off the phone with them, and they are making one now that is flat to the gound with openings on both ends so you can run a fence over the top and water two lots with one of them. That sounds good to me.
Do you have any of that type?
Do you build the pen around the back out of treated lumber or what? |
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NW Missouri | We ran 45 cows on it this summer. No problem.
Boone county has changed a lot since i was a stugent there in the late 70s. Many trips out WW to Bradford farm. |
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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | It has changed a lot since I graduated in 1993. I took my son for a senior visit and was floored by the campus now. It kind of lost some of its charm. You are not allowed to be a poor student anymore. |
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North Mo. | I had one of those took it out after several years of standing on my head thawing out the peerer. Little stuff would plug it up. Put a Cobett in its place, job over. Never will I EVER HAVE A VALVE AT THE TOP OF A WATERER again. If anything ever goes wrong it is the first thing to go hard. Ben |
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west central Iowa | We have the Cobett waterers. We have both the LB and the SB. We water 100 cows in the spring calving season with one of the LB tanks. 2 cows can drink at a time here. Cobett tanks are simple and they work! |
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Southeast Iowa | +1 one on cobett best waterer out there. |
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SE SD | +1 cobett. I have one and am putting another in. With just 4 bulls on it I break an inch of ice topps on the coldest morning and it's good for the day. |
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Missouri | You need little maintenance and that one is good to go. Replace your dirt over back, bend one and a half cattle panels around tied off to 6-8) steel posts to keep cattle from walking off dirt. Put at least half a load of reject lime in front for a base, eliminate that standing water. (keep it deep) Might need to dig out some gravel and get some drainage away from tank. Would like to see 6 inches of concrete before dirt or what you have in the photo as water. Might be difficult, tank looks little deep in the ground. Also see that rod on top back, move it up to(top) higher steel loop and hook it into base top. Otherwise if rod is damage or will not reach put some (#9) wire on it, before it is covered. Should not need those 4 steel posts, the hook system holds the front. 2 Hrs work and that one is ready for long while. Would not change it out for what I see wrong. Pretty easy fix. |
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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | I'm not replacing that one, I am just adding 5 or 6 new waterers to the farm in new pens and fields.
That is the first one I installed in 2004 and I made the mistake of digging too large of a hole and it settled and now is a little deep. I also set it before I graveled a lane we use for feeding next to it which has kept it from draining well.
I will come back and spruce this one up, after 10 years it has earned it!
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versailles mo | I have three of the double waters. I use oilfield pipe and sucker rod for one side. I pull the cross fence off of that. I put wire cattle panell around back on other side. |
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versailles mo | I also have a couple of the blue Johnson waters. They work better in the feed lots they don't get mud in them and they are lots easier to work on however they are not as good in really cold weather. I think they are the waters they use in the western feedlots quite a bit |
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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | smile-n-cow - 11/25/2013 21:07
I have three of the double waters. I use oilfield pipe and sucker rod for one side. I pull the cross fence off of that. I put wire cattle panell around back on other side.
I bought one of the double concrete ones today. A guy about 5 miles from me had a new one for sale, it was $550.00 and a neighbor said I could borrow his mini-excavator while he is off for Thanksgiving, so I need something right now.
I am going to order two of the corbetts to try out on some other farms next summer.
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Central Missouri | We build sucker rod pens around the backside to protect the dirt pile and the taller the grass the better the insulation.
Putting a shut off valve just before the waterer (ball valve centered in 8"pipe so it can be reached with a handle) makes clean out and repair a lot easier.
Putting the tank farther above ground level helps keep the cleaner, one farm came with meloy waterers sitting on the ground with dirt piled on top and very large dirt piles (pens made from 14' gates) on the back and facing south, they cause don't freeze any worse or more often than ones set deep.
Also we have set concrete slabs in front of almost every one, mostly old concrete walls from a turkey litter building.
I was curious about the double waterers in fence lines. What direction do you face them? The single sided work best facing south.
Tommy
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versailles mo | I face double waters what ever way I need to to line up with cross fence I am trying to split the water between. I don't believe they are quite as good in cold wether because you can't face both sides south. I just turn the overflow on a little more. I haven't had trouble with them freezing if you have the overflow turned on |
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| Need advice, we have two concrete freeze proof waterers. One Meloy from Latham and one Smith's from Ozark. This is our second year, no problems last year and on Dec 5th, they were flowing fine, the overflow pipe was dripping, frozen Dec7th, wiht approx 4 inches of ice.
Malloy is wide open, unscrewed copper tubing circulators and blew them out. Any advice on keeping it from freezing? Should it have less water in the tank portion or more? Do we need to adjust the float? |
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Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251 | I was told to keep the water level high in the winter so the water covers the main valve and the circulation valve. The water is warmer than the air and will keep it from freezing. On the new one I just installed, the float is set so the water level is about two inches below the top of the drain pipe when the circulation valve is off. |
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