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| Bought a new 1150 JM grain cart with 20" auger, pto driven and pulling with a 8130 JD. Would like to use the 9230 but does not have a pto, and dealer says 20,000 plus labor to add. JM shows a hydraulic pump as a option but dealer says I wouldn't be satisfied. Any thoughts? |
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Northern Illinois | I had to replace PTO drive shaft and shaft from slip clutch to gearbox on a JM and asked about just putting on hydraulic drive and dealer told me he has never seen a hydraulic drive on a large cart. Can't help but I got the same answer. |
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Strasburg North Dakota | It would be very slow, less than half the speed of PTO, and do not know if it would even work on a 20 inch auger. We use a UFT Hydraulic drive cart and get along fine with one combine, but when using 2 combines it is too slow. The UFT was design from factory as a hydraulic cart only and uses a 2 stage unload system. |
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South Western Ontario, Canada | Had the fun of using a hydraulic driven cart. They work....not fast. Better off trading your tractor in and getting one with pto!
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Middlesex County, Ontario | Assuming best case scenario its a 9230 Deere with the highest available pump option.
Tractor data says
31 GPM
2900 psi
GPM times psi divide by 1715=horsepower
So you have 52.4 hydraulic horsepower available.
Its like putting a Deere 2020 on the PTO
Worst case its a 9230 Steiger and its 26 hydraulic horsepower. You could bolt a Honda motor on the hitch and be further ahead. |
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West of Mpls MN about 50 miles on Hwy 12 | Tried one on a 750 J@M it's now for sale. Never plugged it but it was slow. I ran a double set of hoses and used two outlets which helped a little. Got lucky and found PTO components for my 9330. |
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| We used our 9230 (small hydraulic pump) on a Brent 986 with the hydraulic kit as our MFWD with PTO was unavailable. It had a gauge and the dual hoses to feed the motor so you had to adjust the gate so as not to plug it, It seemed like it was about 150 bu/ minute maximum. IF you had tougher wheat it slowed it down worse. We used it for a few days and got by with it. |
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Rivers, MB | Crop type, yield, moisture, truck size your dumping into, combine size, # of combines, and field size/location of trucks in field will affect your decision. We grow wheat/canola/peas/oats/sunflowers and the only time our hydraulically driven grain cart (that's pulled by a quadtrac) causes an issue for our combines is in high yielding oats. Brent 774 grain cart with a 16" auger. 2 sets of hydraulic lines on the tractor are combined to run the cart. Glensts's estimate of 150bu/min is probably pretty close although at times I think we'd be pushing 200 bu/min in dry oats or canola or sunflowers.
150 bu/ac corn with a big combine with a wide header. Doubt you'll be happy. |
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Mather, Manitoba | Slow. We could only do 100bu/m with ours. Find a tractor with pto or put a pto on.
We put a ton of idling hours on our 4wd when we had it pulling our cart.
Edited by jeff gordon 11/18/2013 13:24
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Western Iowa | Keep in mind 20K is a big bill to swallow to put a pto on your tractor, but the tractor will be worth more, most of what the pto cost you to add, so it isn't like the $$$$ is up in smoke |
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Flora IL | no way will you be satisfied with hydraulic... it is faster than a scoop shovel but not by much. |
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SE ND | our first grain cart was hydraulic instead of pto. Switched to PTO and would NEVER go back. Slower, plugs way easier, hydraulic hose and motor problems. There really is no comparison. |
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hydraulic vs. pto for grain cart
