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wctyilfarmer
Posted 6/20/2013 06:28 (#3164380)
Subject: 854 rogator wheel motor


so il
at what point does one get the wheel motor rebuilt/ resealed? it is beginning to drip on the tire overnight, will try to post a picture later.
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djmranch
Posted 6/20/2013 16:27 (#3165258 - in reply to #3164380)
Subject: Re: 854 rogator wheel motor


NW Minnesota
Guess that depends on how particular you are about you equipment and how much $ you want to spend. I had one fixed and it lasted less than a year and started leaking again. I think it cost around $700 if I remember right to have it done at the farm. Now both fronts are leaking and I haven't fixed them yet. I plan to get through this year and get them fixed this winter. As far as I know they are pretty much a cosmetic problem unless they really start leaking bad. Watch you hydraulic level and grease them regularly and fix them when you feel like spending the money.
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wctyilfarmer
Posted 6/20/2013 23:53 (#3166054 - in reply to #3165258)
Subject: Re: 854 rogator wheel motor


so il
only one is dripping a little it marks the tire overnight, not too bad yet, will try to get picture tomorrow.
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wctyilfarmer
Posted 6/21/2013 10:01 (#3166480 - in reply to #3164380)
Subject: RE: 854 rogator wheel motor


so il
this is 3 days of dripping, don't want to mess up and get more expensive. rogator is new to us.



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djmranch
Posted 6/22/2013 07:59 (#3167830 - in reply to #3164380)
Subject: Re: 854 rogator wheel motor


NW Minnesota
Looks about like mine. I don't think it is of immediate concern. Like I said before, fix it when you can afford the downtime and $. I don't think it is going to blow out on you and cause any major problems. JMO though..
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frytownfarmer
Posted 6/22/2013 08:55 (#3167899 - in reply to #3166480)
Subject: RE: 854 rogator wheel motor



Frytown, Iowa
If you fix that leak... You will be putting far more money into that machine than you want. That leak will stay steady for the next 5 years and is normal for those machines.
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wctyilfarmer
Posted 6/23/2013 08:29 (#3169414 - in reply to #3167830)
Subject: Re: 854 rogator wheel motor


so il
thanks for the input dj and fry. the machine is new to us, I read that if you wait too long to fix it, it gets more expensive. the machine seems to be good. a big step from a 200 a c with a 45' boom to a 220 spraycoupe with 60' boom now a 854 with 90' boom. just added ez steer on waas.
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frytownfarmer
Posted 6/23/2013 12:49 (#3169861 - in reply to #3169414)
Subject: Re: 854 rogator wheel motor



Frytown, Iowa
I was maybe a bit dramatic about the leak staying steady for the next 5 years... It may last a few more but I heard the coops don't change them till they leak a quart per day...
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mike85
Posted 6/23/2013 21:58 (#3170865 - in reply to #3169861)
Subject: Re: 854 rogator wheel motor


E.C. IA
Did a reseal on ours (one wheel motor) after it started oiling up the inside of the tire. Was about $3500 to reseal by dealer done on site, IIRC. Rogators seem to be noted for drips, but when the tire looks slimed, time to fix. JMHO.
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Brandon SWIA
Posted 6/24/2013 07:01 (#3171334 - in reply to #3170865)
Subject: Re: 854 rogator wheel motor


Buddy of mine just replaced a wheel motor that failed. I think he said it was about $12k. Two days after it failed he traded it for an apache. It was the second wheel motor in 2 or 3 years for him. It failed on the road going down a pretty steep hill. I asked him if he had to clean his pants. "Nope, just my wallet." He replied. I think he was actually on the phone with the tech because he noticed it was losing pressure.

I would keep a close eye on it.

Brandon
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cainfarmer
Posted 6/24/2013 07:19 (#3171356 - in reply to #3164380)
Subject: Re: 854 rogator wheel motor



SE Nebraska
I had one wheel motor and seal done this spring. It was around $1200. Found out when it was apart a piece of foreign material scratched part of the internals on the motor and had to have it machined to fix it and stop the internal leak.

If it is leaking it is probably best to get them looked at. It could be just the seal or possible a bearing could be going bad or another problem. It might be cheaper in the long run.
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frytownfarmer
Posted 6/24/2013 07:52 (#3171395 - in reply to #3171334)
Subject: Re: 854 rogator wheel motor



Frytown, Iowa

wow! i think that might be the difference between getting a seal replaced vs. a whole new wheel motor.

i have had 2 seals done on mine it was around 3500 each if i remember... had some other things done at the same time like kingpins so cant remember exact price. 

original poster. just because your seal is leaking doesnt mean you are going to have a wheel motor go bad. i dont know exactly why those would go bad but i guess they do... a seal leak like what yours is is something i would wait to change till the whole tire looks bad. (in a days time)

one thing to help keep your wheel seals is every day before you run, grease the wheel motors. there are 2 grease zerks one on top and one on the bottom of the wheel motor. maybe 3 shots of grease for each. doesnt take much. but that grease keeps dirt out of the crack. it seemed to me that if i greased them too much then they leaked worse? just a couple shots per zerk every day is what ag chem suggests. 

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wctyilfarmer
Posted 6/25/2013 23:48 (#3174879 - in reply to #3171356)
Subject: Re: 854 rogator wheel motor


so il
thanks again for the input, will keep an eye on it and reseal it this fall/winter.
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