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Iowa Quality Hay
Posted 5/6/2013 20:25 (#3084080)
Subject: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low



Grabill, Indiana
We farm some smaller fields and our sprayer tank is 750 gallons so we usually don't have enough ground to justify full tank mixes when spray. We've tried to guess the correct amount of water using the gauge marks on the side of the tank and frankly we SUCK at it!

Is there an economical flow meter that we can use on either our garden hose or 2" transfer pump so we can get closer to the correct amount of water?

Jim
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sprayertech
Posted 5/6/2013 20:29 (#3084091 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low


Belwood, Ontario
Raven has a 2 inch battery powered one lots of guys use them for just that reason
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tomnwoh
Posted 5/6/2013 21:00 (#3084187 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: RE: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low


curtice,ohio
jim ,your missing something ,i load like that every day with no problems. are you sure on the acres in the fields ?
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nbfarms
Posted 5/6/2013 21:06 (#3084213 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low


Apache sprayers come with a flow meter on them and the display is right above your fill valve. Depending on your setup, it may be easier to rig that up. or if you want to see it at the transfer pump, like sprayertech said, put one on a battery on the nurse trailer or tank.
I know what you mean though, I never have real good luck with partial tanks. We normally load full though so it's not as big of a deal.
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cottonhauler
Posted 5/6/2013 21:26 (#3084272 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low


Zabcikville, TX
Why not just fill it up and move from field to field. Also, how many point rows? That can throw things waaay off, acre/gallons I mean.
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aqf
Posted 5/6/2013 21:29 (#3084278 - in reply to #3084213)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low


WC Illinois
Tell me more about this flowmeter on the apache? We have a two year old machine that does not have any way to know precisely how much product we have in it, as far as we know. Dad (does all the spraying) always has the same problem running out. Does it tie in with the monitor? Guess I will have to check with the dealer, but good to know its out there!
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Jay in WA
Posted 5/6/2013 21:43 (#3084328 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: RE: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low


Pasco WA.
I have a 2" flow meter on camlocks that I use every time I fill. I think it may be a Banjo but don't remember for sure. Works great I always load the correct amount. Also reloading before the sprayer runs out on the back side of the field saves a lot of wasted time.

Edited by Jay in WA 5/6/2013 21:43
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t-boss
Posted 5/6/2013 21:54 (#3084361 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low



sc ia
One thing I've done is wright down how much water it took to spray the field then the next time I know.
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nbfarms
Posted 5/6/2013 21:54 (#3084362 - in reply to #3084278)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low


Sorry I miss spoke than. It must have been an option on our 07 1010 that we had for a year. It does not tie into the monitor in the cab which was the biggest complaint I had about it, it had its own little screen/monitor on the outside of the cab. Worked great as long as you remember to reset it to zero every time. Dad didn't get the hang of that.
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boog
Posted 5/6/2013 21:58 (#3084378 - in reply to #3084328)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low



We have a 2" Banjo flowmeter that is set up on cam lock fittings as well. I mount it just after the shut off valve at the transfer pump. That way I can see how much I'm putting into the sprayer tank. It's usually fairly accurate but if you happen to cavitate the pump for some reason it will throw the meter off. Banjo says you need to have 16" of straight flow in front of & out of the meter for it to be accurate. They also want you to use hose that has a smooth inside wall.
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ayrporte
Posted 5/6/2013 22:15 (#3084436 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low


Eastern Ont
How much are you out??
We usually add 10% to be on the safe side, rather have to much then too little
Is your sprayer sitting level when you fill it??
Nothing like coming up the last run and running out, or not making it to the last run
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m3farmer
Posted 5/6/2013 22:30 (#3084485 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low



SW Minnesota, Lyon County
I have a digital flow meter on my sprayer now, but before I just used a Fillrite (sp?) meter that you can put on a fuel pump. I had it on the suction line between the water tank and transfer pump. I used quick connects on the hose so I could take it out when I wasn't needing it. It did slow the fill time down considerably. I never tried it on the output side to see how that would work.
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Clay SEIA
Posted 5/6/2013 22:34 (#3084502 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: RE: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low



Jim, this doesn't directly address your question, but a previous sprayer we owned gave us more trouble in this regard.  We ended up actually weighing it, adding water to whatever mark on the tank, and weighing again.  I don't remember specific numbers as this was something like ten years ago, but I do remember the gauge marks on the tank being incorrect vs. what the actually gallons by weight were.

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Lone Wolf Picker
Posted 5/6/2013 22:40 (#3084518 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low


Black Hawk County, IA
I plumbed a Raven flow meter in parallel to the output side of transfer pump. That way we only run thru the flowmeter (slower) when filling a short load. For full loads bypass the flowmeter. Use an old Raven 400 for display. J
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Itsjustaname
Posted 5/6/2013 22:50 (#3084545 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low


Don't waste your time on a transfer pump flow meter. Biggest waste of money I have ever made. Completely worthless because you still need to guess for how much extra you are going to need and they are prone to failure.
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tim4870
Posted 5/6/2013 22:55 (#3084557 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: RE: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low


Southern MN
Flow meters are going to set you back a few dollars. How about this for a cheap no cost improvement. Run your garden hose into two 5 gallon buckets and time how long it takes to fill them with 10 gallons of water. Then, drop the hose into your empty sprayer and again using your stop watch, every x minutes/seconds put a mark on your tank to mark 10 gallon increments. This should work assuming your water flows from your garden hose at a constant rate.

Also keep in mind different chemical mixtures are going to flow different than plain water.
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farmerbroun
Posted 5/7/2013 00:01 (#3084646 - in reply to #3084545)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low



What kind do you have ? Is it for sale ?

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Iowa Quality Hay
Posted 5/7/2013 00:20 (#3084659 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low



Grabill, Indiana
Ok, I have to admit that we measured one of our fields incorrectly. :-) It was actually 14.5 not 12 so what I thought was a 1 acre buffer really wasn't. We measured this field with satellite imagery and estimated where the landlord was going to install a new fence, we got that wrong. So after I posted I went and looked at my Raven spray controller, we applied 3 gallons more than the recipe called for on 37.5 acres. I guess that isn't too bad.
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Adrian
Posted 5/7/2013 06:14 (#3084744 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: RE: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low



South Georgia
Seems like a lot of folks have trouble with this. I almost always fill the tank full, and adjust my rate to make the tank fit. Assuming I'm spraying multiple tanks of the same tankmix I don't figure too close, just whatever is easy based on full jugs or however I can get by measuring the least. Then on the last tank I can figure closer, within maybe 5%, and not have but a pinch left over.

Yesterday I sprayed a lot of generic Gramoxone, which requires much higher water volumes than I generally like to use, but in four tanks my rate ranged from 15 GPA to about 24 GPA. No partial tanks and I didn't have to leave a field and drive back to it to finish up.

Adrian
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tedbear
Posted 5/7/2013 06:38 (#3084788 - in reply to #3084091)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low


Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn.
sprayertech - 5/6/2013 19:29

Raven has a 2 inch battery powered one lots of guys use them for just that reason


The Raven product is called a Flowmax. I have mine fitted with a male and female quick coupler so I can install it in my transfer hose when I need to use it. I built a small frame around mine out of 3/4" square tubing to protect it. I use it mainly for partial fills when spraying with the planter as we may want different products on different fields or crops. Banjo also makes a similar device.

The Raven Flowmax uses a special battery which is quite expensive.
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apbeery
Posted 5/7/2013 08:59 (#3085048 - in reply to #3084080)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low



VA
I put in a flow meter last year and I love it. http://www.dultmeier.com/products/0.802.3177.3187/4918 It has totally taken the guesswork out of loading the sprayer. It is calibrated for water so if you're pumping UAN it will be off a little. Mine's off 8% in 32% UAN.



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4520jd
Posted 5/7/2013 14:58 (#3085407 - in reply to #3085048)
Subject: Re: Measuring water for sprayer - getting tired of guessing and being low


Hudson, Il.
Banjo has a flowmeter that would work for you.
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