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Mid-Missouri | I asked a few days ago about tedders. I am not specifically interested in these three examples of hay tedders but would like opinions of the three.
First Choice.. http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=7431883
Seems like a cheap setup considering the cost. Probably not interested but would like to here opinions from anyone with info on these.
M&W... http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=6899775
Looks decent enough
Sitrex... http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=7606755
Also looks decent.
Pequea... http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=7091889
More metal, more money.
Appears Frontier is using Pequea as a supplier... http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=7018369
Thanks
Edited by seedcleaner 4/17/2013 21:15
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| Are you on the road a lot? We run a Krone and my experience with it is it travels terrible down the road because of the small tires. I would choose one of the ones with the big "caddy" type tires. Frontier makes a good product. Not too familiar with the other two. |
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Waupun,wi | Buying new?? |
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Wallis, TX | All the smaller units road terrible (wobble or sway side to side), or worse, bend and break the axles if you hit a pothole. Krone and others make units with the rear carrier but,,,, they get expensive in a hurry. We have a 4 basket Krone with only the 2 small wheels for transport and tractor speed is sometimes too fast. Behind a pickup, you're asking for trouble. Normally we just throw it on a trailer with the front end loader, transport speed like that more than makes up for loading time.
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SEON | I agree about the small wheels. Been there done that.
Whatever you do, check the u joints out and the baskets also. Make sure the baskets aren't loose and wobbly when you grab them with your hand and shake them. Look for signs of oil leaking out from around those baskets too. Check to see which ones allow you to adjust the tines so that they just barely touch the ground. Ask how much spare tines and arms cost.
Frontier looks the same as Pequea. M&W looks the same as Sitrex. |
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| Very bad experiences with them. Weak and parts take forever to get here. Never had a Pequea anything. But they have a great rep. for the whole product line. M&W is an Italian unit they purchased. Usable in light hay. Heavy/wet hay not so much. No info on the Sitrex.
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Mid-Missouri | Possibly. Gently used would suit me fine.
We don't make our living off of hay so we don't need to spend alot for an item not required in the operation, but we recognize the benefits of one, and have a tendency to put money where we see quality and value. |
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Lincoln County. NC | TTidwell07 - 4/17/2013 21:24
Frontier makes a good product.
Frontier doesn't "make" anything. Frontier is an amalgamation of whatever Deere can outsource & rebadge from various sources. |
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Randolph Co NC | I have a Sitrex, 4 basket, good machine, doesn't road well behind pick-up, tractor is ok. |
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blairsville,pa | I liked the sitrix I had, only had a fossilized new holland to compare it too. I thought it worked very well but as the others said it's a pissed off squirrel behind a pick up truck. 20 mph is about max on any road that isn't made glass smooth. |
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WCNY | I had a sitrex for a very short time once. Dealer told me to run 5 mph 540 rpms in heavy timothy. Didnt last 50 acres and two time arms broke off. One ended up going through baler after an extensive search with a metal detector. It was a new machine. |
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Merrill, WI | We love our kuhn tedder. Its a 35 foot one with the big carriage. Have had really no issues with it and it has been used a ton. We ted an hour or two after cutting. Looking at adding another and it will be kuhn again. I feel of all tedders they are welll built for the abuse they will see. I think you should add them as an option.
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Snipesville, GA | We had a 4 rotor vermeer and traded it for the 8 rotor 33 ft. machine. We have been very pleased with vermeer tedders. All bermudagrass here. |
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North Liberty and South Bend, Indiana | Have a Sitrex and Pequea. Go for the Pequea for sure. Has one more tine arm and that makes all the difference in the world. Much heavier unit in every way. |
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NE Iowa | Most tedders are manufactured or at least a majority of the parts are made in Italy. There's probably 3 or 4 major manufacturers but then they get sold under a dozen different brands. I own an M&W PT 407 4 rotor tedder. It was made by Sitrex for M&W and the Sitrex dealer is closer so I usually put Sitrex parts on it. The price was right but it's a lighter duty tedder. Not a huge hay producer so it works for me. The center axles are held on by a roll pin that has a dendency to break. When it breaks the one wheel and rotor falls off and it makes some loaud banging and about 10 tedder tines get broke. They made a change somewhere in production to go to a small roll pin inside the bigger roll pin. I switched to that and it helps. When I first got it the roll pins would break every 30 hours and now the double roll pins last about 3 years. Design could still use some improvements. From what I've seen of other designs I think Krone probably makes the heaviest duty tedder. The Vermeer and Kuhn also look pretty good. The Vermeer has a unique tooth that has some advantages. The Krone, Kuhn, and Vermeer are quite a bit more money then the Sitrex, Tonutti, and other companies that sell their design. Depends on how many acres you want to ted. |
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KY | Look at a Fella. |
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Waupun,wi | Do you have a pottinger dealer?? If so you could look into what they have to offer. We have one ourselves. Dont put a pile of acres on it. Been good to us. |
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| what are you going to be tedding? we are running small basket krones that are holding up great. 10 ton per acre ryegrass for silage usually destroys a new tedder in no time. These are taking the punishment and have only broke one tooth so far. If you are after a dry hay machine than it might be over kill, but I bet it would last a long time. Might be to aggressive for alfalfa. Krone has three different basket diameters, just choose which one suits your need. These we have are three point mounted with a depth gauge wheel to make setting a once and done operation. Road speed is wide open, pull the safety rope and hit a hyd. lever, ready to fluff in 30 seconds. Can even get a heavy tooth option that is around twice as heavy as any tooth I have ever seen before. Remember you get what you pay for! |
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| I have the green version of the Pequea. THAT one is overpriced. The tedder is OK. I find in certain conditions it can be bad about balling hay into it's caster wheels. It's not as bad if you keep the rpm down.
I bought that one because I liked the way it folded up for transport with good ground clearance which was important to me. If I was doing it over I'm not sure I wouldn't just use a bigger tractor and go with a mounted Kuhn... or deal with the ground clearance issues on a trailed Kuhn. Overall I think Kuhn is a bit better machine.
I really can't see me owning any of those Sitrex variants.
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Which hay tedder of these would you pick?
