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DavidM

Posted 3/11/2013 07:36 (#2957078)
Subject: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

Iowa

Calling all White 2-155 tractor experts. Does this tractor have a power beyond port? All outlets are being used and need to add a hydraulic motor to planter. If it does, do we need a pressure sensing line to tell hydraulics we need flow? Any help would be appreciated.
DavidM

bharzman

Posted 3/11/2013 07:46 (#2957099 - in reply to #2957078)
Subject: Re: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

North Central Kansas

good luck, I have no clue. Then the most I need are 3 on mine.

girlfarmer

Posted 3/11/2013 07:48 (#2957101 - in reply to #2957078)
Subject: RE: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

You will have to add it. My dad has a 125 that we needed to add it on for our planter too. Your dealer should have the parts on hand for it. It's about a 10 minute job to put it on.

werknman

Posted 3/11/2013 08:01 (#2957130 - in reply to #2957078)
Subject: Re: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

Central Illinois

It can be added very easily. There is a line coming out of the hydraulic unit at the top left side that you can tee off for your pressure port. There is a plug at the top, back side of the unit for the return. This will provide constant pressure any time the engine is running. A flow compensator would be needed to reduce/control the pressure to your hydraulic motor. You need to shut the engine off to disconnect the hoses, otherwise you'll get a hydraulic oil bath. This is from memory. Can post a picture this evening.

girlfarmer

Posted 3/11/2013 08:05 (#2957141 - in reply to #2957078)
Subject: RE: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

Here is a picture I found.

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bharzman

Posted 3/11/2013 08:33 (#2957204 - in reply to #2957078)
Subject: RE: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

North Central Kansas

David, how many outlets do you have now?
Mine has 3 and they are a pta to deal with

Robert W Greif

Posted 3/11/2013 08:45 (#2957222 - in reply to #2957078)
Subject: Power Beyond on many White Tractors

Dallas Center IA 515-720-2463

Very easy to do.
You do not need to go to your dealer. Except for a hose and hydraulic couplier, but a farm store will do.

This will work on White model 2-85, 2-88, 2-105, 2-110, 2-135, 2-150, 2-155, 2-180, 4-150, 4-175, 4-180, 4-210 and 4-225.
Also Oliver 1755, 1855, 1955 and 2255.

Also some M-M and Cockshutt models of the same time frame as the Oliver models.

Top picture.
On the end plate of the stack of hydraulic valves - At the top is a pipe plug with that a allen wrench will fit. Remove this plug.

The hole is 1/4" NPT.

Second picture: Use a 1/4" close nipple, then a bushing or couplier to get it up to 3/8" or better yet 1/2".
From there you are on your own.
In the picture I have a Pioneer male. To use I hooked a female on the male, then a hose to a couplier near the PTO shield.
I have since went to JIC.

Return by removing the pipe plug in the lower left of the rear side of the casting on top of the rear end casting. Picture 3.
Some early, like 1977 model 2-135 and 2-155 tractors do not have this hole and you will have to drill and tap it. Both my 2-135 and 2-155 had to be drilled. But all the later ones have the hole there.
Also both my 2-105 and Oliver 2255 had the hole in place.

Edited by Bobby Greif 3/11/2013 08:48

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bharzman

Posted 3/11/2013 08:53 (#2957240 - in reply to #2957222)
Subject: Re: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

North Central Kansas

I have the same 3 outlet setup on the right.
They are a royal pain to hook and unhook. I took them apart and put a washer back there to use as a pry point with a screwdriver. It would be a lot nicer if they had a more sturdy/rigid mount.

olwhda

Posted 3/11/2013 09:43 (#2957338 - in reply to #2957222)
Subject: Re: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

Liberty, MO

Bobby that setup will work on the 9130-50-70-90 Deutz Allis tractors also.

Robert W Greif

Posted 3/11/2013 10:10 (#2957381 - in reply to #2957338)
Subject: Later White, AGCO Allis & AGCO White Models

Dallas Center IA 515-720-2463

There was a change in the remote valves starting with the White 185 in 1987. Then the following models 100, 120, 1125, 140, 145, 160, 170, and 195.
Also the 4-270.
And I always assumed the DA 9130, 9150, 9170 and 9190. Then the AGCO Allis 9600 series and White 6100 series.
But the Massey design AGCO Allis 9435 & 9455, and AGCO White 6144, may have been a 6124 have a different hydraulic system.

I felt these later valves could be made Power Beyond pretty much the same way, but was not sure.
Glad to know.

Thanks for the info.

I used this very easy to do and low cost power beyond to run spray pumps, my planter fans, and the Rawson Drive on my planter.
Also to power the Joy Stick valve on my loader.

All without ever having a problem.

The pic below is one on a Oliver 1650. A whole different deal.
I assume it would work on all the Oliver Open Center tractors from the 1800 thru the 2150. Not sure.
Models 1550, 1600, 1650, 1655, 1750, 1800, 1850, 1900, 1950, 1950T, 2050 and 2150.

If you want to know how, I will explain with pics later.
It is in the White 5100 planter OM.

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DavidM

Posted 3/11/2013 10:43 (#2957429 - in reply to #2957078)
Subject: RE: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

Iowa

Thanks guys, that is what I was needing to know. And, the pictures are definitely a plus.
DavidM

berggrenfarms

Posted 3/11/2013 11:24 (#2957494 - in reply to #2957078)
Subject: Re: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

Nebraska, The land of corn and cattle

Id go off the left side of the housing instead of off the valves. Weve done this on a 135 and 155. All you have to do is replace the 90 degree fitting with a T and run your hose. Then just dump back into the casting. FWIW weve been told by the Mechanic friend of ours thats worked on Whites and agco his whole life that while going off the valves does work that everytime you use your valves while you have the power beyond running then whatever youre running will slow down just a bit. May not effect what youre doing but for us we are running the blower on our White planter we didnt want it slowing down. Plus that is a pretty small hole on the valves, you will get more flow out of it the other way.

OHT

Posted 3/11/2013 15:11 (#2957842 - in reply to #2957494)
Subject: Re: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

North Central ND

Do you have a photo of the fitting on LH side of machine? Thanks

DavidM

Posted 3/11/2013 21:05 (#2958694 - in reply to #2957130)
Subject: Re: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

Iowa

Rob,
A picture would be worth a thousand words.
Thanks, DavidM

DavidM

Posted 3/11/2013 21:07 (#2958703 - in reply to #2957204)
Subject: RE: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

Iowa

Only two on the tractor.

werknman

Posted 3/12/2013 17:41 (#2960565 - in reply to #2957078)
Subject: RE: White 2-155 Tractor Experts

Central Illinois

Forgot to post the pictures last night. This is how my 2-135 and 2-110 are plumbed for power beyond. On the first picture, the long straight arrow points to where you tee off of a line coming out of the unit. The up arrow is the pressure line coming off the tee. The down arrow points to the return coupling. Just had to remove a plug and install the coupling (on mine). This provides constant, full flow and pressure when the engine is running. Once again, shut the engine off to make/break couplings or you will get a hydraulic bath, at least I did ONCE! I'm using standard pioneer couplings. I now understand that I should be using a flat face, zero pressure coupling for the return. You can damage a hyd. motor if it encounters pressure on the return side. I haven't had any issues, but may be a good idea. I run my white planter blower off this with a regulator on the planter.