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Five Lock Boll
Posted 2/25/2013 18:15 (#2925567)
Subject: Load control shaft seals on 4455


Northeast Louisiana
Is anyone making aftermarket seals for 55's yet? Last I heard I think they were only available through the 50's. We have a 44 leaking pretty badly and the OEM seals don't seem to ever completely fix the problem.
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OLDIRON
Posted 2/25/2013 18:21 (#2925584 - in reply to #2925567)
Subject: Re: Load control shaft seals on 4455


Eastern Iowa
A&I ones work good. I heard the other day that Deere came with a new seal for the 55's that is GREEN and actually works.
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feelnrite
Posted 2/25/2013 18:22 (#2925587 - in reply to #2925567)
Subject: Re: Load control shaft seals on 4455


northwest tennessee
Is the shaft and collars in good shape? If you can feel anything at all on the shaft it would help if it was changed. I finally got some new seals from JD that were purple in color almost and they worked.
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Five Lock Boll
Posted 2/25/2013 18:24 (#2925590 - in reply to #2925587)
Subject: Re: Load control shaft seals on 4455


Northeast Louisiana
Haven't pulled it apart yet, so not sure about the condition of the shaft. That may well be the problem.
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pirlbeck
Posted 2/25/2013 18:39 (#2925638 - in reply to #2925567)
Subject: RE: Load control shaft seals on 4455


West Central Iowa
Deere has a new seal number for that application. The new number is R336625. It is thicker then the old number and so far seems to have taken care of the leaking problem.
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AR Plowboy
Posted 2/25/2013 18:45 (#2925663 - in reply to #2925567)
Subject: RE: Load control shaft seals on 4455



East Central Arkansas

I would check with these folks  www.bolingmachine.com.

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kswrenchturner05
Posted 2/25/2013 19:14 (#2925753 - in reply to #2925663)
Subject: RE: Load control shaft seals on 4455



Geuda Springs, Kansas
I checked with those guys about 3 months ago. The dont have seals past the 40 series.
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deereonly1
Posted 2/25/2013 19:39 (#2925848 - in reply to #2925567)
Subject: RE: Load control shaft seals on 4455


EC IL
I rarely change the seals anymore without changing the shaft. Seems like it does not take much wear on the shaft and its leaking. Its not worth the chance of having to tear it apart again in a few months
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farmer3315
Posted 2/25/2013 20:26 (#2926034 - in reply to #2925567)
Subject: Re: Load control shaft seals on 4455


SE Mo
^^our experience as well^^
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micky b
Posted 2/25/2013 20:45 (#2926113 - in reply to #2925848)
Subject: Re: Load control shaft seals on 4455


How much are the shafts through JD?
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Lil' Hoss
Posted 2/25/2013 21:17 (#2926232 - in reply to #2925567)
Subject: RE: Load control shaft seals on 4455


NESD

Unless you replace Key #19 bushing assy and the shaft you are likely going to have a leak again.





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ak47
Posted 2/25/2013 22:32 (#2926438 - in reply to #2926232)
Subject: Re: Load control shaft seals on 4455


The desert of south central neb
Why do so many people have problems with them leaking after they put seals in? I've put in quite a few seals and haven't had any leak.
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pirlbeck
Posted 2/25/2013 23:17 (#2926506 - in reply to #2925567)
Subject: RE: Load control shaft seals on 4455


West Central Iowa
I have had them leak within months when EVERYTHING was new. In one case, the tractor had seen very little use before it started to leak. Also, they would always leak in the winter time when parked in cold storage. I really believe JD had inferior seals they were selling for several years. When we did the last one with the latest part number seals, we compared the old seals to the new seals and the new ones were quite a bit thicker.......larger on the OD and smaller on the ID.
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YagerFarms
Posted 2/26/2013 06:11 (#2926670 - in reply to #2926113)
Subject: Re: Load control shaft seals on 4455


SW WI
$165 for the shaft. Just put one in a 4255.
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JDBrian
Posted 2/26/2013 07:46 (#2926835 - in reply to #2926232)
Subject: RE: Load control shaft seals on 4455



Dietrich, Idaho and Mountain Home, Idaho
I had this same problem with my 4250 a few years back. I replaced the shaft, the seals(twice) and finally ordered replacement supports(#19). Well before the supports arrived I had to get the tractor back together to use and decided I would remove the supports that were on the tractor and swap sides so the shaft was pushing on the less worn part of the bushing inside the support. Long story short, it hasn't leaked since and I have two brand new supports waiting for the time these others finally wear out.
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sandhillsam
Posted 2/26/2013 07:46 (#2926836 - in reply to #2926506)
Subject: Re: Load control shaft seals on 4455


NW Oklahoma
I replaced shaft, bushings, and seals in September of 2012 in my 4450. No leaks the rest of season drilling wheat. Noticed last week, when walking by it in shed, big puddle of oil under it. Pulled dipstick and couldn't reach oil. Maybe my dealer had old stock seals. They were white seals. Guess I get to do it again. Where can a person order the new, and improved seals? Tried to get seals from A&I first time and they said they had discontinued the seal for 4450's.
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pirlbeck
Posted 2/26/2013 08:03 (#2926883 - in reply to #2926836)
Subject: Re: Load control shaft seals on 4455


West Central Iowa
The new number is R336625. It is thicker then the old number and so far seems to have taken care of the leaking problem.
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sandhillsam
Posted 2/26/2013 08:19 (#2926931 - in reply to #2926883)
Subject: Re: Load control shaft seals on 4455


NW Oklahoma
When did the change take place?
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pirlbeck
Posted 2/26/2013 08:48 (#2927007 - in reply to #2926931)
Subject: Re: Load control shaft seals on 4455


West Central Iowa
I am not sure when JD changed the number.........I think within the last year. At first you could still get the seal under the old number, they did not automatically sub it up to the new number. Now it subs up to the new number.
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sandhillsam
Posted 2/26/2013 08:50 (#2927013 - in reply to #2927007)
Subject: Re: Load control shaft seals on 4455


NW Oklahoma

Thanks. I will have to check with dealer and see which one they sold me.

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Skipper
Posted 2/26/2013 09:10 (#2927075 - in reply to #2925567)
Subject: RE:Shim the side play out of the wishbone for longer seal life.



JD has about 3 (I think) different shim sizes available. The tighter you can get it the better. More important than a new shaft unless shaft shows wear in the seal area. Check for roughness in the center of the shaft where the sensor lever strikes it and dress down. Lube shaft / seals before installation.

Edited by Skipper 2/26/2013 09:11
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sandhillsam
Posted 2/26/2013 16:16 (#2927958 - in reply to #2927075)
Subject: Re: Load control shaft seals on 4455


NW Oklahoma
Yes there is three thicknesses of shims. I shimmed it as tight as I could and greased seals and shaft when going back together. Even put new bushing in front of yoke. Couldn't belive it leaked but it did.
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