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Turkeyboy
Posted 2/22/2013 19:59 (#2918968)
Subject: Deere own Yanmar?


sw MI
15 years or so ago we bought an irrigation pump powered by Deere. When we got it it had a Yanmar/Deere engine. We were skeptical but dealer said deere owned yanmar. It turned out to be an awesome engine. About 15,000 hrs later the engine is giving up. So we ordered two new ones. One to replace the tired one and the other to take some pressure off the other one and to have a backup. The new ones don't have any Deere marking anywhere on them like the old one did. So, does anyone know what's going on? Does Deere own Yanmar anymore? Thanks for your input.
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frmerndel
Posted 2/22/2013 20:06 (#2918983 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: RE: Deere own Yanmar?


As far as I know yes. They never sell anything, just moth ball it. It's just like Cat and Mitshubishi.
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CASE3594
Posted 2/22/2013 20:08 (#2918990 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?


Pesotum, IL
No, Deere never did own Yanmar. Yanmar has supplied John Deere with engines that they branded with the John Deere name. It's like the Iveco engine in CaseIH. It has some CaseIH logos on it (specifically the valve cover I believe) but it is an Iveco engine.
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730diesel
Posted 2/22/2013 20:20 (#2919018 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: RE: Deere own Yanmar?


NE ND
This would be news to me. I worked for Deere for 8.5 yrs and never heard of this. They are great engines. I was told once almost all of Yanmars assembly is done by robots which maybe equates to a high level of quality. One thing I learned the hard way is that yanmar numbers their main bearing caps with #1 starting at the flywheel. Didn't damage anything, but took a looooong time to figure out why the crank wouldn't turn when the caps were bolted down.
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Jack_wabbit
Posted 2/22/2013 20:37 (#2919075 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?


Sorry,
Deere never owned Yanmar. There is only a business partnership for engines & small tractors between the two.
Much like Deere & Hitachi...
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GHFDCH
Posted 2/22/2013 20:41 (#2919085 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?


south central MN
Yanmar powers all of Thermo King's reefer units and APU's also.
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Steiger Man
Posted 2/22/2013 20:43 (#2919092 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: RE: Deere own Yanmar?


Sunburst Montana

JD and Yanmar have been working together since the 70s.  We have 3 Yanmar engines in a JD 455,JD 790, and a gator.  Great motors. 

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Galaxie64
Posted 2/22/2013 21:30 (#2919217 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?


WY, OK
Back in the '80s the exchange rate allowed Deere to have tractors built in Japan and have them shipped here cheaper than making them here. These were the smaller 50 series tractors built by Yanmar, some of the best Deere tractors around IMO. WE have a 1650, great on fuel, just as much power as our 2950 and still starts in any temp and purrs like a kitten. I'd assume they did the same with stand alone engines. Only thing on our 1650 that is a dead giveaway it wasn't made here is the Japanese writing on the oil fill plug. AFAIK Deere/Yanmar still have the engine relationship, not sure if any tractors are still built by them.
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AaronB
Posted 2/22/2013 21:40 (#2919246 - in reply to #2919085)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?


And some of those thermo kings have lots of hours on them-run all day, all the time
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RodInNS
Posted 2/22/2013 22:05 (#2919299 - in reply to #2918990)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?


The difference with CaseIH and Iveco is that both are full subsiduaries of Fiat... Yanmar is it's own entity and builds on contract for Deere.

Rod
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CASE3594
Posted 2/22/2013 22:24 (#2919340 - in reply to #2919299)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?


Pesotum, IL
True, good point. Didn't think about it that far when I was making the comparison.
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Dennis SEND
Posted 2/22/2013 23:31 (#2919439 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?



I have an 05' Ingersoll Rand 185 CFM air compressor that has a 4 cylinder Yanmar motor and has to be one of the best starting smoothest running small diesel motors I have ever been around, at that time you could get either a 3 cylinder Deere motor or the 4 cylinder Yanmar, and before looking at and purchasing it I thought it had the Deere motor and was actually disapointed when I discovered the Yanmar but after hearing it run decided to buy it anyway, and it has turned out to be a great motor and runs smoother/starts better than the neighbor's identical compressor with the Deere motor, personally thing an even number of cylinders make a motor run smoother.
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JohnW
Posted 2/23/2013 01:18 (#2919499 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: RE: Deere own Yanmar?


NW Washington
Yanmar is a big outfit that makes diesel engines from small air cooled units to huge marine power units, and a lot of other machinery and equipment including tractors.

http://us.yanmar.com/products/marine-engines/
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The Pretender
Posted 2/23/2013 04:59 (#2919545 - in reply to #2919439)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?


The Internet

Dennis SEND - 2/22/2013 23:31  personally thing an even number of cylinders make a motor run smoother.

They explained it in one of the motorbike magazines I used to subscribe to, but I am almost certain that a 3 cylinder engine is better balanced than a 4 cylinder, JD used and still probably do use balancers on their Saran 4 cylinder engines. Not that this has anything to do with Yanmar engines :-)

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Butch...Mn
Posted 2/23/2013 07:35 (#2919684 - in reply to #2919439)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?



West Central Minnesota
I have to agree with the Pretender, a four cylinder engine has inherent vibration problems. I also had this explained to me by a engineer who started with Minnepolis Moline and then moved to John Deere. A three cylinder on the other hand does not experience these issues. I wish I could explain this in laymens terms, but that is not my realm of expertise.
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rupert
Posted 2/23/2013 07:59 (#2919740 - in reply to #2918983)
Subject: RE: Deere own Yanmar?


IA
frmerndel - 2/22/2013 19:06

As far as I know yes. They never sell anything, just moth ball it. It's just like Cat and Mitshubishi.


I just passed a semi on the interstate yesterday with a load of Yanmar tracked skid steers on it.
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ccjersey
Posted 2/23/2013 08:37 (#2919813 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?


Faunsdale, AL
Have had a few here. They don't stand abuse overheating etc as well as the old Deere engines. Had trouble keeping head gaskets on a couple of them. Did everything right when replacing, but probably should have been buying new head bolts or something.
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dairyman78
Posted 2/23/2013 08:42 (#2919828 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: RE: Deere own Yanmar?


S.C. Wisconsin
Once had a 7800 Gehl skid loader with Yanmar and traded for the 7810 with the Cummins, the Yanmar had more power and was smoother. Best running skid loader we have now is the Cat with the Mistubutshie engine.
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WillB
Posted 2/23/2013 12:17 (#2920244 - in reply to #2919246)
Subject: Polaris diesel Rangers...


Ontario Canada
are Yanmar powered. Hoping they put a Yanmar diesel in the quads too.
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canadian farmer
Posted 2/23/2013 12:28 (#2920259 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: Yanmar sells Deere tractors in Japan


It's only a partnership between the two companies.  Yanmar also sells Deere tractors in Japan: http://www.yanmar.co.jp/agri/products/johnDeere/index.html

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KMech
Posted 2/23/2013 12:40 (#2920292 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?


Missouri
I don't know who owns what and don't care, but I do know I've seen lots of things with variants of yanmar's little 3 cylinder diesel in them, and they never disappoint.
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frmerndel
Posted 2/23/2013 13:29 (#2920392 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: RE: Deere own Yanmar?


I wasn't implying that yanmar was mothballed. Just that a number of these companies (deere/Cih) buy things and either never use them just so someone else doesn't have access or utilizes a percentage of it. Most of the John deere dealers in my area use to sell the lime green yanmars before they were fazed out. Yanmar is deffinatly alive and well from lawnmowers to ships. Would recomend yanmar products to anyone, they are pretty much bulletproof, easy on fuel, and start good in the cold.
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Turkeyboy
Posted 2/23/2013 17:51 (#2920818 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: RE: Deere own Yanmar?


sw MI
Well thanks for all the input. I guess I don't really care either who owns what. I loved our old Yanmar diesel and am excited about our new ones. Tony
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Bulldog Red
Posted 2/23/2013 22:00 (#2921483 - in reply to #2918968)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?


Kathleen Ga
Yanmar also supplied Cub Cadet for their small tractor line.
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dieseldoc
Posted 2/24/2013 13:51 (#2922640 - in reply to #2920292)
Subject: Re: Deere own Yanmar?


Iowa
disagree.you must not of seen to many then
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