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dmanuel
Posted 1/30/2013 08:38 (#2860569)
Subject: Sonic herbicide ?


Has anyone used Sonic in the past ? good?bad ? Thanks
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packerfan
Posted 1/30/2013 08:41 (#2860576 - in reply to #2860569)
Subject: RE: Sonic herbicide ?


Western illinois
It is my chemical of choice ahead of RR beans. It's never
failed me, yet.
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GrainTrader
Posted 1/30/2013 08:47 (#2860585 - in reply to #2860569)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?



20 Miles West of Indianapolis Indiana
sonic is great for us as well! can really tell the difference between the guys who use strait round up programs and the guys using different modes of action.
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jackrabbitag
Posted 1/30/2013 09:23 (#2860653 - in reply to #2860569)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?


SC MN
Definitely one of the top pre-emerge chemicals I use on beans. Any issues with giant ragweed--this will take care of them really well because of the First Rate.
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paul the original
Posted 1/30/2013 09:29 (#2860668 - in reply to #2860569)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?


southern MN
I was told it doesn't work so well in high ph, high organic matter clay soils, so have not used it.

Paul
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kansasagronomist
Posted 1/30/2013 09:45 (#2860708 - in reply to #2860569)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?



Sonic @ 8oz has exactly the same products and use rates as Authority First @ 8 oz. This is good to know when mixing and matching chemicals to capture program money (ex. $1.50 rebate/acre when using Authority First with RU Powermax)...good info to know.
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lawfarms
Posted 1/30/2013 10:20 (#2860785 - in reply to #2860569)
Subject: RE: Sonic herbicide ?



King City, Mo
I used treflan and metribuztion early then followed the planter spraying sonic at 4.5oz....I sprayed the sonic opposite direction as I sprayed treflan so see if any skips. I had an issue where the boom whipped spraying treflan..you could see that spot this summer in rhe waterhemp.

I u use sonic you can't go back over the top with first rate....
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Bugkiller
Posted 1/30/2013 10:51 (#2860858 - in reply to #2860785)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?


depends on rate that is not quite true if you use 3.2 oz sonic you can come bacl with .33 oz firstrate post emerge
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kryptonite_225
Posted 1/30/2013 11:56 (#2860987 - in reply to #2860858)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?


Central Michigan
How is the residual for control of waterhemp?
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boa628
Posted 1/30/2013 12:01 (#2861005 - in reply to #2860569)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?


SWOH
I've used Sonic or Authority First 4 or 5 years now and I've been satisfied with it. Usually does a pretty good job keeping marestail from getting started and really good on giant ragweed. I had a few issues with escapes last year but it was too dry to get it going I think. Sonic and Authority First are the exact same thing and I'll use whichever I can get. I've been using 3 oz in front of RR and 6 oz in front of non gmo, this is following 1.1 oz of Canopy EX in the fall. I throw the Sonic in with glyphosate and 24D early spring and usually get by with one post application of 32 or 44 oz of Powermax and sometimes post Flexstar on non gmo. Like Bugkiller said, if you use a high rate you can't use Firstrate post but low rate you can hit it once with Firstrate post. I used a little bit of Authority XL last year and was happy with it too, side by side passes with Sonic I couldn't tell any difference although Authority XL seemed to hold a little longer...but it was so dry I don't know if it was a good test. And I don't want to use Classic in the fall and spring on the same field. If Fierce is any good I'm thinking Canopy EX or Authority XL in the fall, Fierce in the spring, and save the Firstrate for post if I need it.

Edited by boa628 1/30/2013 12:03
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farming247
Posted 1/30/2013 12:02 (#2861009 - in reply to #2860858)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?


western mn
Worked PERECT 2012 was our first year using Sonic and this year we will try our hardest to get it on every acre(even if we have to stop the planter for a few hours). Cant remember the rate but we applied it pre-emerge. Nice kicker was it also made a pretty substantial difference on Vol. corn.
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IowaMark
Posted 1/30/2013 12:09 (#2861023 - in reply to #2860569)
Subject: RE: Sonic herbicide ?



NW Iowa. / SW Arizona
2012 was my first year & I had good results using 3 oz. @ acre. I plan on using it again this year.
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90t
Posted 1/30/2013 13:01 (#2861140 - in reply to #2861023)
Subject: RE: Sonic herbicide ?


works great at 3oz.... plan on using it again also
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Bugkiller
Posted 1/30/2013 13:51 (#2861244 - in reply to #2860987)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?


one of the best sulfentrazones half life in soil is very long compared to say valor. Probably the only thing better is the new class of pyroxy, aka zidua, anthem atz,anthem, and fierce
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North iowa
Posted 1/30/2013 16:30 (#2861561 - in reply to #2861140)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?


Whittemore, Iowa
be careful it has sencor in it,
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fairviewfarmer
Posted 1/30/2013 16:40 (#2861580 - in reply to #2861005)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?


I have had good luck with it using 3.5oz./acre PP If you have a potenial marestail problem the earlier you apply it the better.
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boa628
Posted 1/30/2013 16:42 (#2861585 - in reply to #2861561)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?


SWOH
No it doesn't. Authority MTZ has Sencor in it. Sonic is Spartan and Firstrate.
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thelasttime
Posted 1/30/2013 16:56 (#2861613 - in reply to #2860569)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?


There is alot of confussion with Sonic and authority. Sonic is also as safe as any on high Ph and High organic matter. Authority MTZ you don't want to use on high Ph.
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purplepride0
Posted 2/1/2013 14:07 (#2866627 - in reply to #2860668)
Subject: Re: Sonic herbicide ?



West Central MN (between MMF and Larson's)
Paul,
we have fair amount of heavy clay with 4-6+ OM and it has worked well for about the past 4 years for us. We have actually used a little heavier dose at 4oz., but majority of our beans are non-RR. (Hattie-Nutley complex soil) We plan to hit every soy acre with Sonic again this year.


paul the original - 1/30/2013 09:29

I was told it doesn't work so well in high ph, high organic matter clay soils, so have not used it.

Paul
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