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God's Country, Iowa | These were before my time, and I would like to hear a little bit about these systems. Any pictures would be great too! Thanks! |
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EC IA | Got one for sale, cut you a good deal!
They were before my time, but I have used ours a few times for picking ear corn for cattle feed. I remember when dad used it for picking seed corn for Pioneer, it was quite a prodution, a lot of barge wagons and an elevator to dump into a semi.
I think the concept was good, have a power unit and can put on a chopper for silage, husking bed for picking ear corn, or threshing unit for combine crops. I know there are snow blowers made for them too. |
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Chebanse, IL..... | There were a few of them in this area. I never combined, or picked corn, or planted corn (NI had 4r pusher planter), or blew snow w/one. But, we did spray thousands of acres pre & post with on a 708 that we modified a little:
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68340 | The concept was good. The engineering left something to be desired. We had them in the mid 1960's until 2002. Anything before the 800 series had to small of drive or steering tires. No ground clearance. Small rear tires would slide in the mud instead of roll.
Dad had a good idea of putting a 4 x 6 horiz. across the back of the barge wagon and then build a medal frame on the front end of our 3010 with a wooden bride plank going vertical. The 3010 followed the picker and when he turned on the flashers it was time to push. The 3010 was traveling just 3-4 feet in back of the wagon and would speed up and keep pushing until the end of the row. Took seed corn out that way in many a muddy field. Then low and behold someone wanted to buy my 708. Gone it went and I bought a 800C with rear wheel assist. Thought I was in heaven. Big front drive tires and plenty of ground clearance. I had it the last 10 years of seed corn and every single fall was dry. I did not need that rear wheel assist once. lol. so she goes.
Things really got going when we found out about Byron. It is a stripper with no husking beds and it fit on the 800 C. Everybody was using New Idea and it seem like in 2 years nobody I know of was running a New Idea husking bed or their stripper. I saw a stripper sit on a dealer lot for over 3 years before it went who knows where.
My 800 C and 501 Byron went to South America. You could travel quite fast with a stripper as compared to a husking bed. I mean like 3 to 4 times faster travel speed. |
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68340 | Yes, I bet it made a great sprayer. |
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| <p>Jack-of-all-Trades, Master-of-None, though best as a self-propelled picker. In dry conditions they would sometimes catch fire.</p>
Edited by Yoosta B 1/20/2013 16:59
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Lincoln County. NC | First around here in 1964 or 65 along with not the first but a large number of Harvestore silos. Many farmers (Dad and Grampa included) didn't have tractors big enough or other equipment to make haylage, so UniSystems and Fox self-propelled choppers and Owatonna and MF self propelled mo-co's were common. The earliest Unis I recall had V6 GMC and V8 Chrysler gas engines. Our Fox had a flathead Continental straight 6 gasser. Newest Uni around here had an 8.3L Cummins.
Just about impossible to get one of those early self-propelleds to make a turn while going uphill toting a wagon behind. Not much for stopping, either.
Edited by RickB 1/20/2013 17:40
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S.E. Iowa | Didnt Uni's have a GM turo flow diesel? This wasnt a detroit, I had a Louisville that somebody put a turo flow, when I bought it it was knocking and In the process of troubleshooting it schrapnel flew out the side of the block. I think the truck probably had a 534 gas in it originally. |
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fairfield ia | What do you want to know? There is 4 different unis sitting around packwood if thats very close |
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Berwick, IL | My dad and grandpa had a couple for picking seed corn in the 80s and early 90s. I was a kid, just old enough to haul in seed corn in the latter years of us raising it. I just know dad has said many times he is just thankful those unis are gone and no one got seriously hurt. He had one burn up in a field. He has many a time told the story of an employee working under a corn head on a uni in the shop and he had been out from under it for less than a minute and it slammed to the floor. Needless to say he is a stickler on setting cylinder stop when working on combine heads and I think went to using jack stands or blocks under the uni heads after that. |
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Illinois | Dad had one for picking seed corn.....as a child watching him work on it is where I learned all my swear words. |
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fairfield ia | We have 3 at work, all 3 are 800s. 2 with husking units 1 with a byron on it. Night and day diffence not running the husking beds. Have rebuilt the husking beds forwards and backwards. My saying goes its a NEW IDEA nobody said it was a GOOD IDEA. |
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Sunnyside, WA | My family bought a 709 new sometime in the late 70's or early 80's. Had an 818 combine, husking bed, and 767 chopper. Ran a 4 row wide corn head and a pickup head for oats. Never had any soybeans. Chopper had a hay pickup and 3 row wide or narrow corn head. Traded the 709 for an 801. One year later bought the 709 back because changing the main unit was a long job. 709 stayed on the chopper and the 801 switched between the combine and ear corn unit. Stopped filling the Harvestore silo with ground ear corn so the husking bed just sat and was never used again.
I remember the combine starting on fire at least once. Traded the 801 with the combine and husking unit plus heads for a Gleaner R50 in 1988. I never drove either since I was too young.
Traded the 709 for an 803C in 1991 I think. Had to order it since it seems the Uni idea had really slowed down. Traded choppers and headers at different times, but I don't remember when.
We really thought the 803C would out perform the 709, but it never did. Seems like the cutterhead was too narrow on the chopper and the extra hp didn't add much capacity.
My family bought a new pull type CIH chopper with kernal processor pulled by an 8940 and now an MX285. Runs circles around the 803C, which they still have to open corn fields. I drove the 709 some and the 803C quite a bit, but left before they ever had a pull type. The sp chopper was nice to drive, but a PITA to service or repair. |
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68340 | If I remember right they did not have a shield to keep the stalks from rubbing on the head lift cylinder hose. I know they did not have a good shield on the hyd line that went from the tank to the front. Wear through and loose all your oil in the field. |
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| I know some of the early ones had a V6 gasser gm engine. The later ones had Allis Chalmers and then Perkins in them. |
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Schlegel Farms, Hagerstown Indiana | Didn't New Idea buy the patent or idea from Minneapolis Moline? |
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west central Iowa | Mark (EC,IN) - 1/20/2013 21:08
Didn't New Idea buy the patent or idea from Minneapolis Moline?
Ya I think so. I know they have MM mules and attachments at the MM museum in Missouri Valley, IA. I have seen a few NI unis around the country now with the augers for loading out of flat storage on them. |
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NC Indiana | 2 of the Uni's w/ auger locally. Yeah, MM originally had the Mules then sold to NI. |
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| Here is a Uni from Coldwater, OH blowing snow for the town.
The second picture is my 1965 701 gasser with husking bed and 3-30" head. She has a Continental 6cyl engine. NI bought the concept from MM in late 1964 and 1965 became first year of NI production. After 1965, New Idea started using the GM 292 engine, much more power than the Cont. I also have a 1968 701 with the heavier rear end and a MM brown mule (1962) with a picker on it also.
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sw mn | my first combine was a 702 uni with a 717 combine unit and a husking unit for ear corn. liked it on the husking bed but that combine unit was a pain. It was way under built on size of shafts and bearings. always seemed to lose a bearing or whatever in between the units so you had to move the back wheels to side, put the jack stands on the combine and take the combine unit off to make the repairs. I really got good at putting it on and off and tried to keep from blowing up by timing how fast i could detach or reattach the units. I had a couple of completely stupid moments when i over filled the hydraulic tank, which was above the inside exhaust manifold, and when i shut it off and climbed down I heard a whoosh as the oil dripped onto the manifold. I raced back up the ladder grabbed the fire extinguisher and put it out without any real damage to the unit. Sure did wonders to give you a adrenalin rush. Always said it was the stupidest thing i ever did putting those fires out! |
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N.E. Iowa | I had a 800 with a 818 combine that burned up. 2 days later running jd 7720 thinking I was so blessed. |
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NW KS/ SC ID |
dad has two of them, both RWA. one a 700 series, other a gray 800 seires with the b series cummins. (both are for sale!) the one has a husking unit with a blanked off husking bed, and the other has a chopping unit. got a 6 row and a 4 row header.
dad ran a pair of the older ones back when we lived in Idaho, got stuck every once in a while being 2wd, but they did OK.
the local elevator has a big elevator on one and uses it to load out ground piles, seems to work great. its an 800 series as well. |
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| hi my family and I have an 803c with a 6200 chopper
that has a kernel processor and a 6 row head. weve completley rebuilt the chopper but we only chop corn with it, it does a very good job were just looking to go back to one pull type machine so we are looking to sell if anyones interested give me a call 608-574-4709 |
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NW KS/ SC ID | cyrusjones12, contact unifarmor on facebook. ( i beleive that is the exact spelling) he is the uni guy. |
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