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IowaMark
Posted 1/14/2013 21:31 (#2823300)
Subject: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter



NW Iowa. / SW Arizona
I have a 8120 with the bigger 1000 pto but need to get an adapter to go to the smaller 1000 pto. I checked my local Bomgaars store & they don't carry it. I called my John Deere dealer & they wanted $192 for theirs "ouch". Theirs was an after market one. The JD parts guy says there is a differance in pto adaptors. He said to stay away from the lighter duty ones as they can not take the more hp from these bigger tractors.

I did some google searching & did find some but not sure if they are good quality ones or cheaper ones. From the prices of some they must be cheaper made because they were about 25% the cost of John Deeres after market one.

What have some of you used that have held up good for you? Thanks, Mark
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TD15
Posted 1/14/2013 21:34 (#2823314 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: RE: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


The John Deere one won't bend like the others. Its worth the extra $$'s.
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frank-f
Posted 1/14/2013 21:39 (#2823332 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


NEMO
Had a cheap one and it didn't last 6 months,then got the high $ one from Deere and its still working.
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mike in sw mn
Posted 1/14/2013 21:40 (#2823335 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


Walnut Grove MN USA
+1
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150 farmer
Posted 1/14/2013 22:00 (#2823397 - in reply to #2823335)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


Pontiac, IL.
+2 Better to pay more the first time than have to buy 2.
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FarmBoySmoke
Posted 1/14/2013 22:00 (#2823398 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: RE: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


Tipp Co IN

Wouldn't it be better to change out the pto shaft on the equipment and not use the adapters? Most can be swapped out depending on equipment vendor. I am talking about the end coupler or first section. Just my $0.02

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farmer01
Posted 1/14/2013 22:02 (#2823402 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter



Jackson County....... Southwest Minnesota
What are you going to run with the adapter ?
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zztop
Posted 1/14/2013 22:05 (#2823412 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


Mobile
Hub City are the best, stay away from the gold looking under$ 50, they work great for 75hp or less and not made for 75hp+(speeco)


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IowaMark
Posted 1/14/2013 22:06 (#2823416 - in reply to #2823402)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter



NW Iowa. / SW Arizona
Mainly a grain cart.
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KTA
Posted 1/14/2013 22:06 (#2823418 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


<p>There are product liability problems with poor quality adapters. Many have discontinued making them for that reason. The Deere adapter has been around since the 6030/7520 tractor models and is high quality. Still need to use good judgement with it too. If you do go with the adapter be sure the telescoping shaft has clearence while turning due to the added length of the adapter. Hope this helps.</p>

Edited by KTA 1/14/2013 22:11
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SDFarmboy
Posted 1/14/2013 22:09 (#2823421 - in reply to #2823412)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


If you don't have all 3 PTO's like is available, " install a new yoke on your implement" for the larger PTO. Bigger is better, just do it that way. Don't use adaptors, you
are looking for trouble.
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IowaMark
Posted 1/14/2013 22:09 (#2823423 - in reply to #2823398)
Subject: RE: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter



NW Iowa. / SW Arizona
Not sure if I can do that. The parts guy said it all depends on how the tractor is setup from the factory. He said some can but most can't. How's that for an answer :-).
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ayrporte
Posted 1/14/2013 22:09 (#2823426 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


Eastern Ont
Are you using the cart on tractors with small 1000 also?
If not just change the front pto piece
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farmer01
Posted 1/14/2013 22:10 (#2823427 - in reply to #2823416)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter



Jackson County....... Southwest Minnesota
I would change the grain cart over to the big 1000
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IowaMark
Posted 1/14/2013 22:12 (#2823434 - in reply to #2823426)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter



NW Iowa. / SW Arizona
This is what I should probably do.
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FarmBoySmoke
Posted 1/14/2013 22:22 (#2823467 - in reply to #2823423)
Subject: RE: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


Tipp Co IN

I wasnt talking about the tractor but change the coupler on the grain cart. I have done it on other items and it works. Leave the tractor as is. 

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OlsonKrist
Posted 1/14/2013 22:27 (#2823480 - in reply to #2823418)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


nw MN
You could get a new pto shaft with the bigger coupler on one end.
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=1-3721-F&catname=powerTr...

Edited by OlsonKrist 1/14/2013 22:30
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rHiNoBaLlS
Posted 1/14/2013 22:35 (#2823511 - in reply to #2823434)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


WC MN
I'd change the pto piece. Probably about the same price as a good adapter. I've seen 2 pto adapters twisted up. Big 1000 to small 1000 and a small 1000 to 540. You'll thank yourself :)
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somewhereinkansas
Posted 1/14/2013 22:41 (#2823525 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: RE: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


north central Kansas
What kind of grain cart are you needing to adapt? I'm looking to trade the front half of a J&M 875 shaft with large 1000 pto for one with small 1000 pto.
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greenfarmer
Posted 1/14/2013 23:10 (#2823591 - in reply to #2823335)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


Central Minnesota
+2
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funfarmr
Posted 1/14/2013 23:25 (#2823615 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


Ohio
Big to small adapters work fine. We ran one on a 4650 Deere running a pull type silage chopper for years. Never broke one. If you've chopped silage you know the power being transferred through that shaft when chopping corn.
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BHTN
Posted 1/15/2013 06:02 (#2823768 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: RE: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter



West Tennessee
We've run one, that I think came from John Deere, on our 4640 running a 750 grain cart for probably 10 years. It has 2 bolts and clamps to the PTO shaft. It works great and has never given us any problems. I wouldn't run a bush hog on it but it works great for the grain cart.
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Pitt
Posted 1/15/2013 06:39 (#2823812 - in reply to #2823768)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


Starbuck Manitoba Canada
+1 With JDFarmboy change the yoke.
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nwiafmr
Posted 1/15/2013 06:49 (#2823832 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: RE: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


Woodbury county
IOWAMARK.....I bought one at Bomgaars a couple of years ago.....

Edited by nwiafmr 1/15/2013 06:50
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JD fanatic
Posted 1/15/2013 07:19 (#2823887 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


mw
I wouldnt call deere's heavy duty either but your parts guy is correct, you will be cussing the cheap one when the splines are twisted so bad that you cant get it out.
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hogboss
Posted 1/15/2013 08:49 (#2824095 - in reply to #2823421)
Subject: +1 on no adapter! Fixing broken drivelines is expensive!



+1, we had the hired man hook the 7150 to the batwing because the other tractor didn't have AC. He didn't get the adapter tight (good hub city one) and we had to spend $650 to repair the driveline on the mower when the adapter slid off.
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bullhauler
Posted 1/15/2013 09:08 (#2824118 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


Denhoff,ND right in the center of the State
Buy one from JD, they have 2 bolts and bolt on tight,the aftermarket ones just slide on and are junk, been there done that. I use one on my JD 4640 to run snowblower and Myers manure spreader. Terry
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cainfarmer
Posted 1/15/2013 10:43 (#2824323 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: RE: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter



SE Nebraska

I have tried several with poor results. John Deere has been the best. Still using it. It is worth the extra $

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JoeR
Posted 1/15/2013 12:39 (#2824535 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter



NW Iowa
We use the 2 bolt hub city ones as well. Have had no problems with them but usually dont run high demanding things. I agree on changing the shaft end also. We have both a large and small shaft for our cart so we can put it on different tractors without adapters.
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IowaMark
Posted 1/15/2013 16:03 (#2824874 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: RE: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter



NW Iowa. / SW Arizona
Thanks for all the replies guys. After reading all the cons of using an adapter I'm going to just buy the outer end of the shaft. It was only about a $100 plus labor to change it over. Cheaper,better and safer then going the adpater way. Mark
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KMech
Posted 1/15/2013 18:46 (#2825244 - in reply to #2824874)
Subject: RE: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


Missouri
Excellent decision. That was the smart thing to do, you will be glad you did it.
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mid mn
Posted 1/15/2013 19:47 (#2825434 - in reply to #2823421)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


+2 change yoke
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kojo
Posted 1/15/2013 21:19 (#2825771 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


wcks
Our local deere mechanic got us a bolt on adapter with a shear pin for our 8420 on the tub grinder and mower. You slide the adapter over the big one and it bolts on with the 4 allen head screws. Haven't sheared the pin ever but does give me a sense of security while in the loader feeding the grinder.
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SDFarmboy
Posted 1/15/2013 21:27 (#2825805 - in reply to #2825771)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter


kojo - 1/15/2013 21:19 Our local deere mechanic got us a bolt on adapter with a shear pin for our 8420 on the tub grinder and mower. You slide the adapter over the big one and it bolts on with the 4 allen head screws. Haven't sheared the pin ever but does give me a sense of security while in the loader feeding the grinder.


It is just a wobbler, wearing out your whole PTO drivetrain.

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plowboy
Posted 1/16/2013 09:05 (#2826643 - in reply to #2823300)
Subject: Re: Big 1000 PTO to smaller 1000 PTO adapter



Brazilton KS
Deere and CIH both have a bolt on one that takes two big bolts to clamp tight to the shaft. I believe that A & I has one also however I have not physically put my hands on the A & I one as we have several of the others.

The cheap hub city type ones with little bolts are nothing but trouble for anything more then a fertilizer spreader.
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