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North Central Texas | I am trying to educate myself about Silver Combines. We raise wheat mostly in North Texas and are running Shelbourn stripper heads in our no-till wheat. We are running Deere combines but have been told that the Gleaners work very well with the Shelbourn headers. I have not kept up with them since the N7 and N6 series. Can somebody educate me about the differences between the R-60,62,65,66 and R-70,72,75,76? The new S series are probably too new for us to afford but is there a huge advange to the?. Are their any year model differences between these models? Good and bad of any of them? We would probably be interested in the larger machines. Anything to avoid? What to look for in a quality machine? Any particular ones work best with the stripper heads? I notice some have unloading augers that look more like a Deere or Case. What is that? Some factory option or aftermarket update? Anything else that would help. Thanks in advance. |
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No Mans Land , Cimarron co. OK. | We run 3 r series gleaners, 2 r-62's an r-75, run strippers also and get along quite well each year .the newest gleaners are r66,r76,s67,s77 those are the newest numbers, 62 an 72's were from 2002 to 1992 ? There are alot of low houred machines out there to be had if you are looking , they did have turret unloaders for a while but swivel is much better and less parts and easier to work on. when the 75 came out there was a cab change over the 72's, around my area there are lots of silver machines with strippers, they do a very nice job on the ground and a really nice job in the bin. |
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| Only 2 gleaners in our area but those two swear by them. Everyone else just calls them silver seeders. Haha good luck hope whatever you get works out good |
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Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska | A lot of questions here but good to see your open to a different color of machine.
I also run a stripper head (AGCO) on an R76. Works well but most machines with strippers can have a little difficulty cleaning the whitecaps off the seed due to less rubbing of the grain on straw through the rotor. Not a big problem and using the stripper far outweighs the disadvantage.
In about '92 or '93 the 2 series (R42,52.62,72) came out. A MAJOR change from the old N series. Much simpler design with probably half as many drives and belts. First ones had the air cooled Deutz then later the Cummins was offered. In '98 they started painting the machines and got away from the galvanized. That year they put in longer shoes and there were some other upgrades too. I think after about '95 the Deutz was no longer offered.
The design basically stayed the same and is the same through the R66 and 76 models with just minor improvements such as larger unloading augers and the hydro pump was moved up to the enging compartment. Newer style cabs came out in the early 2,000's?
There was the turret unloading auger offered for awhile. It never really caught on as there is a lot more to go wrong with them compared to the swivel augers and they move the grain slower
In the last couple of years the S67 and S77 is being built with a larger rotor diameter 30" vs. 24" and larger accelerator rolls. Basically the same design as the R series but the larger rotor probably works a little better in green stemmed beans and gives a little more capacity overall.
As with any machine...the newer you go the more updated it is. There have not been many major changes since '92 just beefing up and a lot of nice convienient features added and additional horsepower.
Can't think of anything to avoid. Just look for general wear and tear or abuse. Gleaners are very rebuildable and have great longevity. |
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North Central Texas | What is the difference between R75 and R76? Horsepower, capacity, year??? |
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Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska | R76 has more horsepower and the later ones went to a 14" unloading auger vs. a 12". On about any rotary combine, increased horsepower translates to increased capacity. |
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west Nebraska northeast Colorado | How much trouble do you getting rid of whitecaps? I have always felt the Gleaner rotors did the best job of cleaning wheat with a regular header, but wondered if a conventional machine would clean better when using a stripper header. |
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Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska | It really depends on the variety of wheat and the first day or so is the worst. After that everything gets pretty dry and is not quite as much of a problem. I'm not sure it makes a lot of difference wether it is a rotary or conventional machine....just needs more material going through to rub out the grain. Like I say, not a big problem but a little aggravation.
I run the rotor down to an 1/8". |
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Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska | Yes, I have the return to cylinder kit. Maybe I'm being too critical. The guy that cleans my seed says about anyone who brings in wheat from using a stripper head seems to be a little more trashy. I don't get docked much if at all at the elevator. |
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Iowa | The longer shoes started in '96, a year or two before they started painting them.
Were there big electronic updates along with the new cab in the 5 series? |
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Strathcona, mn | I run 2 r72's. One is a 1993 with the deutz and one is a 96' with the m11 cummins. I would get at least a r62-72. I've had every series since the original n-5 series and each are an upgrade. I personally like the r72 can as well or better than the 5 series cab. The cummins is nice but I don't see it as being a huge advantage over the deutz. I would stick to a 72-76 if you are doing wheat as it can be power limiting. The 96 year is when the m11 and longer shoe was added. I have one so I know that it is the case. The longer shoe is nice in light crops but there is no advantage in wheat or such. The cleaners are awesome in good dry wheat. Up here we have heavy wet green straw do we do some mods to the feeder house cage and rotor that make them act about 30% better than stock. In wheat with a 36' draper power is my limiting factor as the combine acts more like a machine half as big again as it is. Overall they are good machines that are serviceable by most farmers. The 75's and newer are can buss wiring so need lap top to trouble shoot wiring. The 72 series is plain old positive/ground wiring so easy to deal with. |
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Central Alberta | I like the 5 series and newer for the larger unload auger and improved cab. It will empty that big bin quite quickly. The 06 and newer has the sisu engine in it which is a fine engine. I have ran an 06 R75. The 08 and newer combines have an improved feeder house floor design which can be added to older machines. The most important thing with the Gleaner machines is to have the rotor set up for you conditions. For example whether or not you need reverse bars and the helicals. On some of the first sisu powered machines, they came out with the incorrect programming in the R75 so they had less power. My brothers machine was like that. With stripper headers, I do not think you need the 75 because less material in the machine. I have run an R75 with a 40 foot MacDon FD70 on it. It was all the header that combine wanted but it did work fairly well. |
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Tennessee | R76 has a SISU, R75 has the M11 Cummins. |
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