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ihmanky
Posted 11/4/2012 16:38 (#2677979)
Subject: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?



KY
Save me some travel time if I can do this myself within reason. I feel like with a front end loader and tire tools I can make it. Not sure if I can get enough airflow to seat the bead, but there's always ways to make it happen. Question is, can I break down and mount another 22.5 with just two folks and the equipment I listed? May try the golf ball balance trick since I have a half dozen.
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IADAVE
Posted 11/4/2012 16:48 (#2677995 - in reply to #2677979)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


I don't know what you listed but if you have a 4 ft pipe to put on your 3/4 drive breaker bar or appropriate wrench, 2 tire irons or 2 suitable pry bars. A bottle of dish soap or crisco. Cooking oil also works. And a way to air the tire back up you should be good to go if you are persistent. A block of wood minimum but preferably a suitable jack is helpful too.
Of course a 1 inch impact and the appropriate socket would help.
I did it once without the benefit of wrenches or jacks. Just had 2 short bars, the air hose off the truck, a can of either and a match. Not a good deal.
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IADAVE
Posted 11/4/2012 16:50 (#2677996 - in reply to #2677995)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


I am sorry about missing the part about the loader and the tire tools. The soap will help more than you think.
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cdi
Posted 11/4/2012 17:02 (#2678007 - in reply to #2677995)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?



western Pa
Getting bead seated will be only problem part,
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8320farmer
Posted 11/4/2012 17:08 (#2678017 - in reply to #2677979)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


East central Indiana
We change all our tires on semis. Super singles included. With just a few tire pry bars. Biggest thing is seatin the bead. We now have cheetah bead seater. Best tool and potato gun ever.
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TEE
Posted 11/4/2012 17:17 (#2678030 - in reply to #2677979)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


Indiana
When you change a truck tire like that ALWAYS remember to mount and dismount the tire with the open dish upwards. In other words always make sure you can stand in the rim. Also if your worried about seating the bead get a Michelin tire. The sidewalls are a lot more flexible and shouldn't need a bead seater. A duck bill sledge hammer should do the trick to break the bead. Good luck.
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ihmanky
Posted 11/4/2012 17:30 (#2678063 - in reply to #2678017)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?



KY
I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on a bead cheetah as well. Probably for sure after I struggle tomorrow!
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ihmanky
Posted 11/4/2012 17:32 (#2678068 - in reply to #2678030)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?



KY
If a Michelin truck tire is as high (compared to other brands) as passenger tires are, those beads oughta seat themselves!
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mmaddox
Posted 11/4/2012 17:46 (#2678100 - in reply to #2678068)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


Do it often. Jack the axle up, remove valve stem, break the beads, apply tire mounting compound, remove tire with tools of choice. Lube up the new tire, throw a bag of Equal in the tire, re-mount tire, and inflate. The inflation part is the most difficult. Bead Cheeta, or O-ring and lots of tire mounting compound are choices. The only time you might need a second set of hands is seating the beads.Should be only a matter of minutes. Changed four tires the other day in 14 minutes. Pulled wheels and used on the newer Ken_Tool removal bars.
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earp
Posted 11/4/2012 17:55 (#2678117 - in reply to #2678100)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?



Manila, Ar
Tire repair shops are too close and cheap for me to start fixing flats...........:) I guess everyone knows his limitations and fixing flats and baling hay are my limits........:)
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funfarmr
Posted 11/4/2012 17:58 (#2678124 - in reply to #2677979)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


Ohio
Ether works just as good as a bead cheetah...although the bead cheetah is probably safer ;)
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lal cenIA
Posted 11/4/2012 18:05 (#2678139 - in reply to #2677979)
Subject: RE: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


The last one that went flat I took to a repair shop because I didn't have the correct size. They had a real hard time in seating it. They had a 3 gal bucket of stuff like vaseline (lubricant that doesn't deteriorate rubber). They put on about a 1/2 gal of vaseline on the rim and tire and then it aired up real easy. It looked like a smooth trick. They wiped off the excess and thru the rest back into the bucket to be used again.
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 11/4/2012 18:27 (#2678175 - in reply to #2677979)
Subject: RE: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


Central ND
No problem once you learn how to do it......I alwasy figured everyone knows how to R&R a tire from hub and rims. I guess not......
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loran
Posted 11/4/2012 18:46 (#2678222 - in reply to #2678063)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


West Union, IOWA FLOLO Farm 52175
185cfm compressor works well......we don't even use the Cheetah anymore....(but I'm not selling it.....just in case the oppressor is tied up elsewhere.....
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Offroadnt
Posted 11/4/2012 18:56 (#2678250 - in reply to #2677979)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


Southern Alberta Canada
If they are Dayton (spoke) wheels, don't over tighten them, 250ft/lb max or you'll make a hexagon shaped wheel that's hard to work with.
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ccjersey
Posted 11/4/2012 19:39 (#2678375 - in reply to #2677979)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


Faunsdale, AL
When you go to seat the beads, place the wheel with the dish down or if it's a dayton wheel, put it on a 2x4 block so the rim is held tight against the bottom bead of the tire and all the gap is at the top. That way the air you blow in with a bead cheata can't just go through and out the bottom (it cannot lift the steel rim, only move the tire sidewall) Same process with ether.

Tire soap works on everything, (rear tractor, wheel loader, scraper, grader tires etc, but it's messy and you have to have a bucket of it sitting in the shop. Still, better than the alternative with those bigger tires. Also a bucket of it should be alot cheaper than a bead cheata and should last a long time. But really you need both!
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cdf
Posted 11/4/2012 20:03 (#2678438 - in reply to #2677979)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


NE Montana
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200316183_200316183

easiest way to change a tire, use tire irons to get tire onto rim.
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1466driver
Posted 11/4/2012 20:29 (#2678497 - in reply to #2678438)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


Interstate 35 North ia
One thing that i always do is only put about 50 to 70 # in the new tire and then install the rim on the truck then finsh airing up the tire to 100# or what ever the reqirerment is that way if something were to blow the rim isnt going anywhere .
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milofarmer1
Posted 11/4/2012 21:16 (#2678661 - in reply to #2678497)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?



Texas/New Mexico Stateline
1466driver - 11/4/2012 19:29

One thing that i always do is only put about 50 to 70 # in the new tire and then install the rim on the truck then finsh airing up the tire to 100# or what ever the reqirerment is that way if something were to blow the rim isnt going anywhere .


If it is going to blow it will be way before 50# is reached. Really ought to be in a cage from the start. But I will admit I don't have one. I put just enough air in to hold it on the rim. Maybe 5# then roll it outside the shop and lay it down. I clip the air hose on then go back inside until I think it is close to aired up. Really scares me. Had a guy that was in my class nearly got killed mounting a pivot tire. He had just started filling it when it blew.
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jeff gordon
Posted 11/4/2012 21:55 (#2678764 - in reply to #2677979)
Subject: RE: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?



Mather, Manitoba
use an old barbeque propane tank and make an air blaster. Weld on a 2" ball valve and screw in about a 4 inch open end pipe. Flatten out the end. Got an air blaster. I can change out a semi tire and have it back on the truck in no time.

Buy all the tools you need to do tire repairs, and don't tell anyone you got them. You'll spend a ton more money in fuel going back and forth to the tire shop over your lifetime. Not to mention the time wasted waiting for the guy to get to your problem.
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frmerndel
Posted 11/4/2012 23:00 (#2678942 - in reply to #2677979)
Subject: RE: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


Just do it! Period! As mentioned over time buy the tools you need, eBay, gemplers, etc. Ken Tool pretty much makes the tools for changing tires. Buy them and use them. I quit using outside services for tire work, cost was getting out of hand and the last time was the last when I ended up pulling a 20.8-38 they "fixed" the day before out in the middle of a chisel plowed field that was all but done. Yes........ They could hear me yelling from 10 miles away!
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twraska
Posted 11/5/2012 08:23 (#2679292 - in reply to #2678117)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


Wallis, TX
Send some of those shops my way!!!!! Few choices here, one is high, like $16 for a pickup/car tire flat, no mobile service and doesn't like tractor tires. The other more or less does tractor tires but twice he's left rocks (gravel) in the tire and got the tube rubbed thru in no time. One other time he put the tube in backwards. Only one good guy a fair distance away and he is always busy.

For the OP, son prefers tubless truck tires to almost anything else. I don't have the knack for it but he can pop the first bead on without a tool, about 4 or 5 bites with a spoon and its back on. We use the tire mounting soap (grease looking stuff) to fill the gap if need be, usually a big air hose directly hooked to a tractor water adapter will get enough air in fast enough to push it out.
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ekeller2
Posted 11/5/2012 10:36 (#2679495 - in reply to #2677979)
Subject: Re: How difficult to change semi steer tire myself?


So. IL
Leave the wheel on the truck, its alot less work. Get yourself a bucket of bead lube, it makes it 10x easier.
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