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JoBob
Posted 9/5/2012 22:30 (#2577174)
Subject: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).


West Central Wisconsin
Been working on my 6620 combine trying to get some of the slop out of the rear steering axle. Upon removing the tapered tie-rod end of the steering cylinder I noticed the tapered hole on the spindle is egg-shaped and sloppy, (#5, http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/com.deere.u90490.partscatalog.vi... . I dropped it off at a machine shop to see if could be built back up and then drilled using a reamer to the same specs as the tie-rod taper. They don't have such a reamer so now I'm looking for advice or a site that might carry these reamers. The machinist says it's about a 5 degree taper and the hole diameter for the threaded shank is 9/16" or 5/8". Is this the best way to go about this or are there other options. BTW, a new one is $600+. Another thought was to use a plasma or EDT? to cut out the bad hole and replace it with another hole from a donor spindle. Your thoughts? Joe
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johnypop
Posted 9/5/2012 22:42 (#2577211 - in reply to #2577174)
Subject: RE: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).


ND

6620 salvage yard, has to be a better one out there then what you have and cheaper then new.

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t-boss
Posted 9/5/2012 23:17 (#2577311 - in reply to #2577174)
Subject: Re: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).



sc ia
I have shimmed them before with success. Just cut a shim and roll it to fit in the hole. I think some people see the castle nut on a tie-rod and think the nut shouldn't be tight and that's where the problem starts.
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lskywalker
Posted 9/5/2012 23:25 (#2577332 - in reply to #2577311)
Subject: Re: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).


SE MN
You can buy what I call a spindle reamer.
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TP from Central PA
Posted 9/5/2012 23:33 (#2577353 - in reply to #2577174)
Subject: RE: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).


What type of machine shop are you going too???? Amish????

Would not be that hard to fix with any decent CNC 3 axis mill and some work with a burr after some weld was laid in the hole.............Or a tapered reamer. Honestly, for a combine, I'd lay some weld in it and work on the hole with a die grinder until I was happy with the fit of the new tie rod end, then lock tight it and assemble it tight. I just find it hard to believe a machine shop would turn that down. All of the ones I ever worked at would jump on that, quick money.
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Bern
Posted 9/6/2012 00:48 (#2577476 - in reply to #2577174)
Subject: JB Weld


Mount Vernon, WA
I'm dead serious. For less than $5, you can fix this and do a good job. Simply rough up the surfaces with a grinder, mix up some JB Weld, put it in the hole, insert tie rod end, keep pressure on it overnight with a jack or something similar while it dries, and then install the nut in the morning. Check nut for tightness after using it a few hours.

I've done this, and it does work well. You will have perfect 100% contact, something you can't do by welding and grinding.
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Fawazhay
Posted 9/6/2012 01:20 (#2577509 - in reply to #2577174)
Subject: Re: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).


Northern CA
How long does the JB Weld repair last?
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headerpuncher
Posted 9/6/2012 01:45 (#2577524 - in reply to #2577509)
Subject: Re: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).


Ea. Washington
Probably forever if you don't let the nut get loose again. Hint, put some oil on the tierod taper so it won't stick to that part so it can be removed if necessary.
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dvswia
Posted 9/6/2012 07:02 (#2577608 - in reply to #2577524)
Subject: Re: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).


sw corner ia.
put heat on the jb weld area, it will soften right up. I would expect the jb material to never harden correctly if you contaminate the tie rod surface with oil.
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7720gas
Posted 9/6/2012 09:30 (#2577803 - in reply to #2577608)
Subject: Re: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).


weld up the taper, and go buy some tapered gringing stones for your high speed air operated tool ,this is to easy...

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Bern
Posted 9/6/2012 09:51 (#2577850 - in reply to #2577509)
Subject: Re: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).


Mount Vernon, WA
As long as the nut stays tight, forever.
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Hay Hud Ohio
Posted 9/6/2012 09:54 (#2577856 - in reply to #2577174)
Subject: RE: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).



SW Ohio
There is such a thing as a tapered reamer that is the right size, but i don't know where to find one or what to ask for.

One way i have fixed them in the past is to weld in a little extra metal in the hole, take a used tie rod with the right taper and make a punch out of it, heat the hole until it is plastic, yellow hot, and beat the punch into it until it is back to a a tight taper.
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scassell
Posted 9/6/2012 09:56 (#2577859 - in reply to #2577174)
Subject: RE: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).


South Central Wi.
I don't know where you are located but I have a 6620 that I'm parting out and the tie rod ends are good.
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Rawleigh
Posted 9/6/2012 10:23 (#2577899 - in reply to #2577174)
Subject: Re: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).



White Stone, Virginia
See if you can get a different tie rod end with a steeper taper 6 to 10 degrees and get a taper reamer for the new taper. A taper reamer is less than $100.
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Plow79
Posted 9/6/2012 11:48 (#2577983 - in reply to #2577174)
Subject: RE: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).



Chilliwack BC
Here's the eBay page for a company that makes tapered reamers for tie tod ends. I found out about it on here from someone but have never ordered from them myself.

http://stores.ebay.com/XKUT
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farmer45
Posted 9/6/2012 13:03 (#2578046 - in reply to #2577983)
Subject: Re: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).


Washington Co Ks
I had a tractor that the steering arms got loose on the spindles and wore the splines. I cleaned them up and mixed JB Weld and put them back together and let it set overnight. It lasted for several years and stayed tight.
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Alberta Pioneer
Posted 9/6/2012 15:38 (#2578230 - in reply to #2577174)
Subject: Re: Repairing tapered hole, (tie-rod).


Warburg, AB
I've always wondered about using tie-rod ends off something like a semi, should be easy to find a reamer for them. Would probably be just as strong and way cheaper than OEM.

Bruce
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Busted Knuckles
Posted 9/6/2012 21:20 (#2578764 - in reply to #2577174)
Subject: previous thread - LUKE'S LINKS


Southeast Minnesota
http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=327257&posts=9...
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