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farmer82
Posted 8/28/2012 23:49 (#2564036)
Subject: Advice for lemon tractor


S.E. Iowa
My son bought a new Massey 2625 tractor a year ago last spring, after countless problems he traded and upgraded into a 2660HD. He went from a new purchased tractor to a lease return with 300 hours.There has been 6-7 issues with it since he got it this spring. The latest is it needs a clutch, talks to dealer weeks in advance, lets get this ready so when I get a window of time you can fix it. Takes tractor in they have it for a week, they dont touch it. He tells them I have to have a tractor so they give him his old one. It makes it down the road about a mile and some steering bolts sheer off. He goes back and gets his 2660 with a bad clutch. Feeds cows a couple days and various other chores, today he hooks up to mow hay mows 3 acres locks up mower for transport and closes gate. Gets back on to tractor 3pt is on ground wont raise and out of hydraulic oil. He has called another dealer to start servicing the tractor but it was late in the day so nothing going yet. Last year when we met with the district manager for AGCO there was 37 things wrong with the 2625. Based on our experience I have no idea how AGCO can be in business. When is enough enough? What advice is there for dealing with this?
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Fawazhay
Posted 8/29/2012 00:50 (#2564124 - in reply to #2564036)
Subject: Re: Advice for lemon tractor


Northern CA
Lemon laws are fairly specific and I believe tend to favor the customer a little. Get a lawyer involved. It will be a cheap $500. Lemon come in all colors, and I think you got a red one.
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Trent2520
Posted 8/29/2012 02:54 (#2564167 - in reply to #2564036)
Subject: RE: Advice for lemon tractor



Statesville, NC
Something doesn't sound quite right. If a tractor is out of transmission/hydraulic oil there has to be a big leak, or someone isn't doing daily maintainence. Could there be a leak on the disc mower hose or cylinder? Is the lease tractor under warranty? A clutch could go bad in 300 hours with a bad operator.
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Tazzerblue
Posted 8/29/2012 07:12 (#2564234 - in reply to #2564036)
Subject: AGCO source out that tractor?


SW MN
Does AGCO even mfg that tractor? not that it's an excues for a bad tractor in this day and age. I tend to agree get a Lawyer involved. and find one that has experience with the lemmon law. No sense paying for the lawyers education too.
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youngsekfarmer
Posted 8/29/2012 08:36 (#2564366 - in reply to #2564036)
Subject: Re: Advice for lemon tractor


Elsmore, Kansas
I agree w others. Get a lawyer involved and I'll bet ur dealer gets a little more motivated towards ur situation. I am wondering if maybe ur tractor has the wrong dip stick in the hydraulic system causing u to be running the system low on oil when u think its full and maybe thats leading to your problems????? Good luck.
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semosandfarmer
Posted 8/29/2012 12:07 (#2564628 - in reply to #2564036)
Subject: Re: Advice for lemon tractor



East Prairie, MO
I knew there was a bad problem when I read "my son bought a new Massey" sorry Detroit! Massey ran us off years ago with our 2nd 550 combine in 1983...
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retento
Posted 8/29/2012 12:54 (#2564678 - in reply to #2564628)
Subject: Re: Advice for lemon tractor


Eastern North Carolina
These tractors are built in India using Simpson-Perkins type engines..... Not Perkins engines, but "PERKINS TYPE" engines. Don't know if Simpson builds the rest of the tractor or no.
Probably a Mahindra with Massey tins.....


Edited by retento 8/29/2012 12:57
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WillB
Posted 8/29/2012 16:49 (#2564889 - in reply to #2564678)
Subject: 2600 India, 2600HD Brazil.


Ontario Canada
retento - 8/29/2012 12:54

These tractors are built in India using Simpson-Perkins type engines..... Not Perkins engines, but "PERKINS TYPE" engines. Don't know if Simpson builds the rest of the tractor or no.
Probably a Mahindra with Massey tins.....


The 2600 are rebadged TAFE of India, the 2600HD are Brazillian built. All new series coming this fall to replace both, too many issues with them. Should of spent tne little extra and got a real MF, a 5400 series!! Would of been worth it.

Edited by WillB 8/29/2012 16:51
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Trent2520
Posted 8/29/2012 17:01 (#2564904 - in reply to #2564678)
Subject: Re: Advice for lemon tractor



Statesville, NC
Not a Mahindra. The factory was setup by Massey in 1960 to build Massey 35's. In the mid 90's I sold some of the TAFE tractors from that plant. They were not a knockoff, but they actually were Massey. The company was partly owned by Massey. I got one in once that had a Massey Ferguson serial number tag. They were good tractors, the only weak point being the electrical system. Had several customers scraping dairy lots every day, and put several thousand hours on them. Had one in the shop that had an injector pump problem. The injection pump hung at high speed and the governor would not slow it down. I bet it turned at least 6000 to 7000 rpms. When we finally got it stopped there was no damage.
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EquipmentUser
Posted 8/29/2012 18:48 (#2565045 - in reply to #2564904)
Subject: Re: Advice for lemon tractor


KY
We had a customer that had a 2625 and had nothing but problems with it. They finally traded him out of it to a 2650 and he has been happy with that tractor.

How do you know the clutch is going out, is it slipping? Those tractors have constant running throw out bearings so there is no free play. The clutch stays right at the top. As long as there is 6" distance from the floor to the lowest point on the pedal and it isn't slipping then there isn't a problem. What started leaking to lose all the oil?
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Detroit
Posted 8/29/2012 20:42 (#2565237 - in reply to #2564628)
Subject: Re: Advice for lemon tractor


Crawfordsville, Arkansas
semosandfarmer - 8/29/2012 11:07

I knew there was a bad problem when I read "my son bought a new Massey" sorry Detroit! Massey ran us off years ago with our 2nd 550 combine in 1983...


Lol no worries here. Every color of tractor has a sales "office" and a huge building in the back to work on them. Deere dealer here just built a new shop that about tripled their original and it stays full. CIH has a big shop and it's full too.

We're flying out next week sometime to the combine factory in Hesston to drive our new Massey off the line.

Edited by Detroit 8/29/2012 20:44
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farmer82
Posted 8/29/2012 22:16 (#2565483 - in reply to #2564167)
Subject: Re: Advice for lemon tractor


S.E. Iowa
There has been a clutch issue since he got the tractor. It has been back to the dealer several times and they have came out at least twice. It has leaked oil for awhile, then yesterday it dumped while mowing. It is of my opinion that imported tractors are not of the quality of the older domesticially made tractors at least from third world countries. The first Massey he bought was from India and this one I think is made in Brazil. I know you can have issues with any tractor but two in a row will probably make Massey a last choice for us.
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semosandfarmer
Posted 8/29/2012 23:18 (#2565659 - in reply to #2565237)
Subject: Re: Advice for lemon tractor



East Prairie, MO

Hope you enjoy the trip, Factory tours are a whole lotta fun!

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