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| I'm looking to trade air seeders for next year. Trying to decide between a 5710 Bourgault or an 1830 Deere with NH3. Will the mid row banders on the bourgalt help save alot more moisture? Between a 6450 and a 1910 cart which will do a better job of metering out canola? I really like the looks of the deere cart but I would like the easiest to set and most accurate metering. Another thing is cart wheel tracks. My air seeder now has deep lugged tires and if it's a little wet the crop doesn't come as nice in the tracks. Don't know if I would like pulling a tow between mainly because of visibility but maybe it is worth it not having the cart tracks. Do the double casters on the 1910's help this problem? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks |
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Hazelton, Kansas | 9600,
I have only had experience with Deere carts. I think they meter pretty well, but I have done only limited acres of canola.
My biggest complaint on the Deere is clean out. The plastic cutoff valves have never worked on either of my Deere carts (which I bought used). IMO, the clean out door needs serious help. It amazes me that they haven't redesigned them.
So...look them over, and try to visualize the clean out process.
Both my carts are TBT, so I can't comment on the casters, etc.
FWIW
MDS
Edited by crowbar 6/2/2012 10:35
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Dagmar, MT | I have some experience with bourgault not so much with JD. One problem with canola & bourgault carts is the highly inefficient air system. Cleanout is much easier when it meters into one 6" tube but then the fan has to push product up to those tall manifolds on the drill. Had to run the fan way higher than I'd like. The plastic meter augers are absolute crap. If you do go with bourgault make sure to get the stainless steel ones. In the last 2 yrs we've been stuck at least a dozen times. Unhook from drill, pull ahead, drag the 3" rope into place and yank the drill out. I can do this in less than 15 minutes. It would be quite the ordeal if you had a tbt cart. |
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| Bourgault for sure. Have a 3310 and 6450 now, used to have 1820 with 1900 air cart.
The Deere cart's casters will pack the hell out of your crop.
The new Bourgaults are way better at metering canola than they used to be. |
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Roseglen, North Dakota | One would compare the 5710 to JD 1835, not 1830. 1835 has banders, 1830 does not. I would choose 1835 all day long vs 5710 for the drill. but the 50 series Bourgault cart are very hard to beat. They are simple, have many nice features. Would be too much trouble for most guys but my choice would be 1835 with Bourgault cart. |
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| Had 1910 JD, now run 6700 Bourgault. Liked JD, but really like Bourgault. Very easy to clean out, open bottom, blow from top with leaf blower, run the augers for a while, done. Maybe not good enough for certified seed growing, but ok for me. JD was a half hour to get the same quality of cleanout.
Both tanks are variable rate, Bourgault way more accurate. Canola this year, I wanted 4.5, set it at 4.6 so I wasn't light, 1450 acres total went on 4.6.
I would go with stainless steel augers if you get Bourgault, my plastic wear too quick on fertilizer. Even treated wheat will cause trouble with them.
Bourgault tank will empty to about a quart of canola, JD was about 2 gallons. This is using camera in tank. Whatever you buy, put cameras in them.
Conveyor on both, like them both about the same.
Overall they are both great tanks, you will be happy with either one.
Never had JD in really wet years, but the front casters weren't big enough I thought. Needed bigger rubber. |
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NW Washington | The caster wheels on the JD cart tend to make them to slide downhill on side slopes more than carts with steered wheels in front. I think tow between carts are actually recommended for hilly land. |
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Southern Alberta | I have a bourgault 6550 tank and a Deere 1910 tank.
If the bourgault has the deluxe 10"fill auger, the bourgault cart is the only way to go. If it has the regular auger it is not as much better, but I would still buy bourgault.
Pro and con Bougault
Pro
Better auger if get deluxe. Very easy for one person to handle, easy to fill tanks completely and easy to unload tank
Easy to clean out and when empty bin light comes on it is empty.
Minimal metering parts to maintain and replace when worn.
Very accurate if you calibrate carefully.
Cons
Monitor and variable rate not as nice or as integrated into jd tractors as Deere system
Heavy
Cost more
Jd 1910
Pros
Plastic tanks don't rust
Good parts network
Nice monitor
Ladder up to tank is nice.
Very efficient fan with low hydraulic requirements.
Cons
Some engineer at Deere could not figure out how to put the tank lids in the center, so very hard to get tanks full, and the tanks only hold the rated bushels if corners are shoveled full.
No good place to stand or kneel when filling tanks.
Filling auger is hard for older people to work with.
Slow and messy to empty tanks.
No camera in tanks, so don't know how long you can go when empty bin alarm comes on.
Edited by poorboy 6/4/2012 00:02
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