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CGFarms
Posted 4/9/2012 23:13 (#2328791)
Subject: rogator wheel motor


Union, IA
I have a 1998 854. I have a wheel motor leaking oil. What are my options? Are they something that can be fixed in my shop? Or is it something that needs to be taken off and fixed or just replaced all together? If so where do I look for one? Is there a company that sells rebuilds instead of buying new? TIA
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AdamOnt
Posted 4/9/2012 23:25 (#2328823 - in reply to #2328791)
Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor


Most likely needs new wheel seal. You will need special tools to do the job properly. Take the unit off and get your local Ag-Chem dealer to do it, or a good hydraulics shop.

If it isn't leaking too badly, you might be able to slow down the leak by greasing it. Sprayertech and speak to this with more wisdom.

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MMiller
Posted 4/9/2012 23:36 (#2328853 - in reply to #2328791)
Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor


SW Iowa
How bad is it leaking? A drip or two on the wheel? How often have you been greasing it? Where is it leaking, on the inside of the rim of the outside of the rim? The seal kit is probably around $900-1000, and an experianced tech can probably reseal the motor in 2-3 hrs. It is not a job for the faint of heart, it is easy to screw up, and its easy to end up needing a $7000 reman motor from a mistake on assembly. I've probably done 50 of those, and ended up having to hang a couple remans due to a failure(either parts or induced upon assembly).

Look at it this way. There is a guy in your area that does them often, he drives a white service truck with a yellow stripe, and if he screws up the assembly, and ruins the motor, his company will buy a reman. I would suggest you hire it done this time, help/watch the tech do the repair, have him explain how the motor works, and then you can decide if you want to tackle the next one when it leaks.

If I never see the inside of one of those motors again, it will be too soon.

Michael
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Smoothlander
Posted 4/9/2012 23:38 (#2328855 - in reply to #2328791)
Subject: RE: rogator wheel motor



We found that we were greasing ours too often.
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Jon S
Posted 4/10/2012 05:04 (#2328981 - in reply to #2328855)
Subject: RE: rogator wheel motor



How often is too often?

Seems like there is either the "too often" group and the "not often enough" group. I just put a few shots of grease with every tank of diesel used. 5200 hrs. Watch them start leaking tomorrow. lol.






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MMiller
Posted 4/10/2012 07:40 (#2329074 - in reply to #2328791)
Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor


SW Iowa
It depends on the Rogator. I know of alot of 854s that are greased daily. It also depends on if you are traveling 2 miles to the field, or a day that you spend 50 miles traveling between 2 acre patches. Newer machines, 8/1064s are very easy to overgrease. For the most part they fall in the "not daily" greasing. The owners manual tells how often to do it.

If the OP is putting a tube of grease in every day, I would run it a couple days without greasing them, to see if the leak stops. If it has one drip on the rim from sitting all winter, I would run it. If its putting a cup on the wheel each time you stop the machine, it probably needs a new seal kit.
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CGFarms
Posted 4/10/2012 08:05 (#2329121 - in reply to #2329074)
Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor


Union, IA
It is leaking quit a bit. Not covering the wheel but you can see drip strips down the tire that are covered with dust. I have noticed some very minor dripping but this spring it is three times the amount of oil as other years. Thanks all.
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Smoothlander
Posted 4/10/2012 08:21 (#2329156 - in reply to #2328981)
Subject: RE: rogator wheel motor



Jon S - 4/10/2012 04:04

How often is too often?

Seems like there is either the "too often" group and the "not often enough" group. I just put a few shots of grease with every tank of diesel used. 5200 hrs. Watch them start leaking tomorrow. lol.








We used to be daily and went to every other.
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sprayertech
Posted 4/10/2012 12:11 (#2329446 - in reply to #2329121)
Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor


Belwood, Ontario
Time to reseal it
The above posts are correct get some one who has the tools
And experience to do it. Most hyd shops do not have the rolling for it
Should only take a few hrs if nothing else is wrong inside
Greasing should be 1 or 2 shots every 75 hrs when they Are
Warm
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Jon S
Posted 5/2/2012 15:33 (#2365594 - in reply to #2329446)
Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor



How did you determine every 75 hrs was the best interval?


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sprayertech
Posted 5/3/2012 19:28 (#2367361 - in reply to #2365594)
Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor


Belwood, Ontario
the actual written is 50 on frt 100 on rear, i just split the difference, the point being the less the better but still need some
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