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Zabcikville, TX | What are the differences between bearded and non-bearded wheat, other than the beard of course? Soft and hard wheat? Everything around here is classified as "hard red winter wheat". "Here" its just wheat. Some bearded, some not. Never have understood that. Inform me please, TIA. |
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Saskatchewan, big whitetail country!!! | I think you answered your own question. Speaking of HRS up here, there is awned and non-awned. CPS is all awned. It is simple varietal differences. |
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Zabcikville, TX | Please forgive my ignorance, I've heard of bearded soft and hard, non-bearded soft and hard and red wheat. Wheats seeds aren't red, they're brown. I realize there are different varieties, but I'm confused. |
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Downtown Shell Knob MO Come Visit! | Herford cows aren't red either, they are brown. Same difference. Anymore its kinda hard to tell the difference. But true hard wheat looks like a girl with no ass, and true soft wheat looks like a girl with a nice ass. (thats how I was taught) As for color red wheat has tannins and some kind of acid in the bran. Kinda like red grapes vs white grapes. Red wheat can be bitter because of the tannins but white wheat usually has a Bla flavor or no flavor compared to red wheat. Durum wheat has higher protein and therefore has better milling characteristics for pasta and things like that |
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Zabcikville, TX | NOW I kinda get it. So the difference between hard and soft is the amount of bran in the seed? Surely it not jiust the shape of it. Do bearded vs. non-bearded yeild more or less. Around "here" its mostly bearded, some non-bearded. What is "awned or non-awned" is it just a different word for beard? |
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Downtown Shell Knob MO Come Visit! | Yep bearded usually is referring to the fully awned varieties. Its actually not just awned and awnless. Some wheats have short awns while others have full awns. Neither yields better than the other, its kinda like horned vs polled cattle. I always liked awned wheat because I thought it might keep late season weeds down and give a little more photosynthesis for grain fill and catch scap fungicides better. But I won't lie, I really just like the way it blows in the wind better. Up until a couple years ago, the best varieties around here were usually awnless or short awned but now there are some awned varieties that seem to be better. Kinda like guys going back to there horned Hereford cattle.
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Downtown Shell Knob MO Come Visit! | Btw, don't you know the difference between hard and soft wheat. Hard wheat is what the grow west of the kansas/missouri Oklahoma/arkasas lines and soft wheat is what they grow east of there. Also hard is what they trade in KC and Soft is what the trade in Chicago. See there are tons of differences. |
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Texas/New Mexico Stateline | We did seed identification in Ag class in high school. Spent a week looking at wheat seeds, never really did get the hang of it. |
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perryton, tx | The majority of beardless wheat i have seen planted is for graze-out. The awns can get stuck in cattle's cheek and gums and cause problems. I'm not aware of any beardless varieties that are planted because they're good grain yielders, at least here. |
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Guymon, OK | cottonhauler - 3/30/2012 17:45
NOW I kinda get it. So the difference between hard and soft is the amount of bran in the seed? Surely it not jiust the shape of it. Do bearded vs. non-bearded yeild more or less. Around "here" its mostly bearded, some non-bearded. What is "awned or non-awned" is it just a different word for beard?
The difference between hard and soft wheat has to do with protein content. Hard wheat has more protein and makes better flour for breads, while soft wheat has lower protein and is good for making things like crackers. Spring wheat tend to be softer than winter wheat, as well. Durum is the hardest wheat.
Most of the beardless varieties I've seen have been better suited for grazeout, rather than grain. The beards won't be poking cattle in the eyes or sticking in the mouth. That doesn't mean you can't have a high yielding beardless variety, there just aren't that many developed for the southern plains.
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Ha! I spent too much time typing, so now it looks like I copied Joel.
Edited by okpanhandle 3/30/2012 22:28
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Michigan | Wish I would have went to school where you did! |
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Scottville, 49454 Northwest Michigan | We prefer bearded wheat. It makes a big difference on our farm with regards to deer damage. Deer don't like bearded wheat, relative to beardless.
Have seen them walk through a bearded part of the field to get to a beardless section of the field. We have some fields that we will not plant beardless in. It can be that significant.
Thankfully, our best producing varieties are bearded.
gordon |
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near Orleans, France | fully agree with you for deer repellency
to a lesser extend, aphids usually also prefer wheat without beard
durum has alway a beard, and when you brake the seed it has a glassy appearence instead of the white flour appearence of other wheats |
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north central indiana | I was always told awnless wheats better for bedding and doesn't irritate hogs skin like bearded varieties. Most grown here is awnless but that's because everybody bales the straw |
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