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Huntley Montana | I need to move a 1000 gallon propane tank in the morn. It has 30% fill. 2 lift eyes about 6-8' apart of 1/4" steel. Thinking of lifting & putting it on a flat trailer with a 580c. What does the tank weigh? Propane? Should I use straps under the tank to lift? What do you folks think? | |
Need to move a 1000 gal propane tank. Has 30% in it. 2 lifting eyes about 6-8' apart look like 1/4" steel . Dare I lift from those to set on a trailer? What does a 1000 gallon tank weigh empty? Figguring 5# per gallon of propane so that is 1500#. Might be able to get straps under the tank to lift with. Thinking it's going to be about all the 580c will lift. So what do you all think?
Edited by Badger 9/7/2007 23:50
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Eastern Montana | I moved one like that a few years ago, if I remember correctly I ran chains under the tank outside of the feet and picked it up with a Farmhand 236 loader on a JD 4520 and carried it across the yard. The tag on the tank will list shell and head thickness of the tank so you can calculate the weight of the tank. |
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West Union, Illinois | I was told as a rule of thumb figure 1000# for a 1000 gallon tank. Some older ones weigh more. The 300 gallons of LP will weight about 1300 pounds. DO NOT lift it by the eyes. They are generally rated for 5%. Run chains or straps all the way around it. Legally it should be pumped down to 5% or less. It should also be placarded, have shipping pappers, driver to have CDL with tanker and haz mat endorsements. |
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Alton, Ia | I think you are way low on the 1000#. I posted a similar question a few weeks ago, and Agboy came up with 2300#. (I felt kind of guilty afterwards, I could have done that, but got lazy :))
We picked a 1977 vintage one up this week, supposedly had 7+% in it. A 1070 Case with Dual loader barely, and I mean barely, was able to get it on the trailer. A White 100 with a WL 42 loader had absolutely no problem getting it off :)
But I would agree with using straps underneath, especially at 30% fill.
http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=27625&mid=1876...
Edited by Oliver1 9/8/2007 07:25
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| I moved one several years ago that was an 880 gal. tank. It was made when steel was short, I think back in the 70's. I don't recall how much it had in it, but I think it was about 30%. I just used the eyes on top of the tank, no problem. I was talking to the guy used to own the company that I got the gas from a few days later. He said I got lucky, usually the eyes pull off with much in the tank, run chains under the tank. |
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Propane weighs 4.24 lbs. per gallon, so at 30% (300 gl) you have 1272 lbs. of propane in the tank. Look on the tag under the lid and it will give you the weight of the tank.
As far as lifting by the ears they should hold as long as you are careful. I'm now working for a propane company and have lifted 1000 gl. tanks at 85% using the ears. To be on the safe side just loop a cargo tiedown chain around tank and go for it.
If you are going a long distance pull the little plastic indicator where it reads 30% off the tank. It should come off with either one ore two little screws. If it's molded into the gauge housing just bust out the plastic lense and remove the indicator. Your propane supplier will have univeral fit replacement indicator for about $8. By the book (DOT) all tanks must be 5% or less and have a 1075 placard for transport. The only way Mr. DOT can read the tank is by the indicator or weighing the tank. If he stops you and asks for a placard you can plead the fifth.
Good luck
Merle
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Brazilton KS | A 1000 gallon NH3 tank with running gear weighs 3800 lbs. The gear might weigh 500 to 600. That leaves the tank at 3000 lbs more less. I can't believe there is that much difference between the nh3 tank and the lp tank since both are basically the same operating pressure. Mike or Marc, am I missing something? |
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Huntley Montana | Took the Boom truck up & slung it with a couple chains. It's now in a safe spot. |
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| price of wheat should have bought a 30,000 gal a few years ago ! |
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| Looks like you are running on borrowed time with your CDL. It is not if but when you will be part of a propane accident. I pray it is not near a populated area and does not cause sparks. When the lifting rings pull off, it gets nasty in a hurry. |
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West Union, Illinois | OK, I erred on the tank weight. I was thinking of a 500, and that weight was just what an old experienced guy told me ... I have never actually weighted one.
As for Merle's lifting an 85% tank by the ears, foolhardy is the most generous description I can use. My first reaction is you @#$^&!! idiot! Somebody working with me did that I would literally box him one up side the head. And the boss would ask me why just one side.
Such a cavalier attitude toward safety will get someone killed or injured someday. If you are not going to do it right go get a job flipping hamburgers, because we do not need you in the industry. The propane industry has an outstanding safety record. Clowns like you are what cause new and unneeded regulations. A few years ago a transport in the southeast lost a hose and dumped its load and the entire contents of a propane bulk plant across a highway. The hose was improperly made, the hose was not inspected, the safety shut-offs in the plant did not work ... multiple violations of existing rules. So what did DOT do? It made new more cumbersome rules! We do not need that happening.
You lifted a tank at 85% by the lifting lugs? Don't buy any lottery tickets because you just used all your luck.
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Ohio | I tried to pick mine up once to put new blocks under it and I couldn't lift the whole tank, but I did each end, it was heavy!!!
I would say a NH3 gear would be at or over 1000 lbs though.
Ted CenOH |
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Flandreau, SD | I just took the shell thickness by the sheet steel weight? DOT tanks for road travel might have thicker shells? I got one I took off the running gear and could weight it? |
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Flandreau, SD | Ya what you said! Thats like saying "I have never planted any refuge acres, come check me out!!". |
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Brazilton KS | Nurse tanks are ASME, not DOT. They've been inspecting tanks with missing or illegible data plates and certifying them as DOT tanks around here. Is it possible to recertify a tank to ASME? I am not all that found of having to reinspect every so long with the DOT certification..Once the tank is ASME it's ASME as long as it's got a data plate.
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Flandreau, SD | I don't know all the rules but can see really quick tomorrow if the shells are the same. |
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Moving a 1000 gal Propane tank W 30%
