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| Looking for a good manure spreader to spread straw and cornstalk bedding pack and also the occasional old hay pile from feeding hay. Thinking side slinger would be the best route not sure what models to look at for a Kuhn/Knight brand. I am open to any brand but the one i mentioned would have the closest dealer and would be open to listen to other brands. I haven't been around them alot we used to just trade equipment and labor for use of an old new idea (didn't like that) and have decided to just bite the bullet and try to find a used one in good shape. So what model numbers and what to look at in terms of wear points or things that regularly need rebuilt. Don't know how to categorize how heavily it would be used, we run about 100 cow-calf pairs (background our own cattle and raise seedstock) and it will have to be stored outside for time being. Thanks in advance. Also forgot to add have anything from 150 to 250 hp fwa to pull with.
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whitesville new york | I think you would be better off with a box spreader because it takes a lot of power to chew up the kind of manure you are talking about. I was told the neighbor messed up a auger on his 8014 spread by catching a rock just right and messed up the whole flighting. |
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Northwest Iowa | Stay away from a side slinging spreader with that type of stuff. Takes alot of horse power, and very slow unloading. Straw tends to wrap around augers and then freeze solid. Knight/Kuhn makes a great box spreader for that type of manure. I own both a side slinger and box and they are used acordingly to what we are hauling that day. See if your dealer will rent one to you to try for a day, that will tell you a lot. If they will not rent one to you with a clean out agreement, I'd look for a dealer that trusts what they sell and stand behind it. |
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North West IA/western AZ | I had a Gehl (very early) side slinger that was great for everything except long stem tough straw. Unless they have changed I doubt you would like it for your situation. |
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| Thanks for the input the rocks was the one thing I wasnt sure of we wouldn't have anything to worry about more than the occasional 1 or 2 inch sized rock nothin too big, our area isn't rocky and alot of the bedding we have has came off of concrete except for a couple places. The reason i was looking at a side slinger is it's hard to get the weather to cooperate sometimes in the winter and we farm around an oil and natural gas field with alot of lease roads so if need be i could spread along a couple of our fields just by staying on the road if i absolutely had to. Also, I do have an JD 8410 I wouldn't be afraid to put on it if i needed extra power. |
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| Thanks for the replies, keep em coming. This is why I asked cause I havent been around em alot. Another question on the box spreaders are they better than what i have been used to which is the ones that are not uniformly spread and throw clumps. I'm wanting something i can spread in the winter and run a field cultivator over in spring and plant. |
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Northwest Iowa | Had a Gehl for about 3 months. Spent more time fixing than hauling even the sloppyes stuff we have. Wouldn't clean out good enough to store outside in the winter and would freeze solid. Broke the main drive chain so many times, got sick of it. Long material sheared pins constantly. Replaced pin with grade 8 just to empty, then chain would go. Makes for long days and the need to go to church multiple times that week. |
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| Get a box spreader with vertical beaters. That is pretty much all that is used around here by the guys that feed cattle. I rented a Kuhn vertical beater spreader a couple falls ago. I was impressed by its spread.
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Northwest Iowa | Any thing with a horizontal beater is hard to not throw clumps of long bedding. The up right beaters are the way to go if you can afford to. These also don't like rocks, but if you use your head loading, will be no problem and give a even spread pattern. |
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| Will look into the vertical beaters, any chance I can keep this thing under 10k cause that was my absolute top end on budget unless I really have to up it ( which i don't want to lol) Also what model numbers would they be so i can look them up on tractor house to get an idea, i know minimal about vertical beater box spreaders
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nc Ne | I use a h/s 430 spreader , would like a vertical but can't afford it . 140 hp will pull it , 180 + is a lot better. |
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Driftless SW Wisconsin | I bought a used New Holland box spreader with single horizontal beater for spring cleanup of the area around the winter hay feeders. It works very well in that type material as long as I don't fill it above the beater centerline. if filled higher it clumps.
It would be better to have two horizontal beaters and fill higher, or the vertical beaters. However for the price and the little I use it the single horizontal beater NH works fine. Just have to make a couple extra trips a year. Good luck .
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| A "good" used spreader under 10,000 is hard to find, $8000 and under near impossible unless you want a small one. I looked for a box type med. size with 2 beaters for 2 years. Missed out on 2 diff. ones because I thought about it for 24 hrs. Last week mine finally broke had to buy one but wasn't my ideal setup, but cheap enough to work for a few years. Good luck!! |
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SW Ontario | We have a Hagadorn with horizontal beaters. It will spread anything from slop to pen pack well. It has a plastic floor and sides so outside storage is not problem. It is three times the spreader than the New Holland we had before it. I don't think we would ever buy anything else. |
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Sheridan, IL | Im not sure were you are located but around here you can buy a good used new holland tandem axle with a big box everyday on farm sales for 800 to 1000. |
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WCOH | Under 10k you will be limited to a box spreader with horizontal beaters. You might find a slinger for that but it will be rough. The Kuhn/Knight slinger will be EXTREMELY slow to unload with what you are hauling. |
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| if you have to replace the vertical beaters they run between $10-16,000. they spread great and give little trouble if you use some common sense, but they are spendy upfront. |
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saskatchewan | 90_pere - 2/18/2012 12:25
Im not sure were you are located but around here you can buy a good used new holland tandem axle with a big box everyday on farm sales for 800 to 1000.
It can't be much of a spreader if you can buy it for that price?A good older used nh 195 you can get one from between 8 and 10000,any cheaper then that it is either going to need some work done to it,or it is getting pretty wore out. |
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Sheridan, IL | ours is a 791 Its older but the sides, floor, frame, apron chain, And beater are in good shape the only parts we replaced are the beater bearings and the transmission cable. now if we have a catastrophic failure with it we haul it to the junk yard and get a different one. we haul around 100 loads a year with it and have had it for 8 years now. |
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| I have seen alot of freshly rebuilt side slingers for 7500-10k and most were in pretty good shape. I haven't looked real hard at the box spreaders but don't really want to spend over 10k for something that gets used 5 or so days a year but its either do that or dump it on scalds in fields and level it with a skid loader (did this in the past but end up having to disk it and it takes as much time and fuel as a spreader. I guess this is not going to be as easy of a decision as i had hoped. lol |
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Driftless SW Wisconsin | my NH has a plastic floor and was about 5k a few years ago. Just needed a couple hyd hoses and a new rope/cable ! Dairies seem to be going to side slingers and this was a trade in at a dealer. It had only been there a couple days before I saw it. Dealer says many folks like us looking for one. Good luck.
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nw oh | We run a 8132 Knight side slinger. We have straw bedding. When it is really solid (we do not have this as often as we should) it takes a little longer to unload and does not come out as uniform. It will still chop it up and not leave big clumps. I think if you went with a 8118 you will not have some of the maintenance issues that some have talked of. I think these will have updated thrust plates.
We have run rocks and concrete through ours and have yet to have a major fix knock on wood. We really like ours. |
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sw minnesota | I just bought a 195 new holland today, I have had a 190 new holland for the past 3 years and have had minimal trouble with it. As long as you have double beaters it spreads really nice. I have all feedlot manure off of cement and the majority being cornstalk bedpack manure. the 190 is about 2 ft two short to evenly get two buckets long in there for me, if that makes sense. I also wanted bigger tires and hydraulic drive. These spreaders are pretty simple but works well for me. If I was loading alot of manure off of dirt yards I would maybe consider a heavier built one. A good friend of mine has a 8124 kuhn/knight and he loves it can dump way more frozen chunks in then i can and gets along good, but it takes longer to unload. |
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TX | A kuhn knight 2044 with a vertical beater would work great for what you are wanting to do. Its probably out of your price range though. We have had a john deere 780 that grandpa bought used 20 years ago. It has probably spread a million tons for us. The 780 is fairly easy to work on if something goes wrong also. It does a good job spreading, we no-till behind it without much trouble. DO NOT get a Kuhn-Knight with a horizontal beater unless you want to chisel or molboard behind it. We have a 2054 and it is very hard to spread thin with. No matter how hard you try it always puts areas out that are ankle deep and eight foot wide. |
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SW MN | I would get a box spreader. Look for a hydro push. I really like mine. |
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Northwestern Minnesota | 195 NH spreader is a good spreader and a used one is in your buget
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WCOH | Wright-Way - 2/18/2012 15:05
I have seen alot of freshly rebuilt side slingers for 7500-10k and most were in pretty good shape. I haven't looked real hard at the box spreaders but don't really want to spend over 10k for something that gets used 5 or so days a year but its either do that or dump it on scalds in fields and level it with a skid loader (did this in the past but end up having to disk it and it takes as much time and fuel as a spreader. I guess this is not going to be as easy of a decision as i had hoped. lol
Must not be as much demand or livestock in your area. I saw a 8018 with a hole rusted in the side sell for around 8000 here. |
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nw NC | Here is the New Holland conventional box type spreader with optional upper beater. Looks like it is doing a good job breaking up straw bedding clumpy manure. Models 145, 155 , 165 single axle and model 185 double axle all same width of box , just progressively longer boxes. Models 190 and 195 are larger models (double axle) with wider boxes and again progressively longer. If you could find a spreader, your New Holland dealer could order you a top beater attachment for it .
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south central WI | We run a Gehl 1329 side slinger. Now made by H&S. We like it, we don't run a box spreader anymore. Rocks will shear a bolt and dent the bottom, but most go through. We bed with straw, corn stalks and wood shavings. It feeds through good, if it bridges up the auger can be raised hydraulically. I think the biggest way to improve it would be to add the Knight spinner. It has swinging hammers which would help with our rocks. |
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south central WI | We run a Gehl 1329 side slinger. Now made by H&S. We like it, we don't run a box spreader anymore. Rocks will shear a bolt and dent the bottom, but most go through. We bed with straw, corn stalks and wood shavings. It feeds through good, if it bridges up the auger can be raised hydraulically. I think the biggest way to improve it would be to add the Knight spinner. It has swinging hammers which would help with our rocks. |
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NW Iowa | we have a JD 785 hydrapush for sale! You can email me if your interested!! Bought a bigger hydrapush, a PIkRite 1190VB and we really really like it!! |
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