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| Anyone own or know of and have experience with Burch 114 planter , which has its independent transmission on each unit???
Anyone planted peanuts with a 114 Burch or have any hopper attachments for peanuts??
What are the pros and cons of this planter????
What would 4 individual row units be worth???
What would a Rip , Disk, Bed , Plant set up like in this picture be worth???
Anyone know of any older Burch planters for sale??
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Owens Cross Roads, AL | Buy the 900, this would be a nighthmare to keep running. Wilson |
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| Why you say that Wilson?? Is it because of the each individual row unit transmissiom instead of a single shaft drive with only one transmission like on the 900 IH.
Have you had any experience with this model Burch planter???
Would the Rip and Plant setup be a good thing to use???
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Grabill, Indiana | DTM:
You've received a TON of good advice. If you want to farm, get a modern planter. If you want to play antique tractor man keep up what you are doing.
Getting the seed planted correctly is the MOST important part of making a crop. The crappy old planters you keep asking about simply won't give you the accuracy nor the seed to soil contact that newer planters can.
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Marengo, Iowa | We owned a couple of Burch planters back in the 70's. It seemed like I spent more time walking behind the planter looking for the chain that drives the unit than I did planting. The frist thing you need is a monitor to tell you when it isn,t planting. Ours were the old twin row versions and the plates run about 15 degrees from verticle to singulate the seed in the seed cell of the plates. It would plant light going up hill and heavy going down hill. I hope I don't start having nightmares after looking at those pictures. Ours were cut up for scrap many years ago to save someone else from having the agony! |
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| Can't help much on the Burchs. Here is something you need to consider. It's a Lilliston Rip-n-Plant rig with 71 JDs. 71s can be used to plant almost any row crop seed. The only bad thing I've ever heard about these is that you need plenty of moisture when you plant. I know of several that have been set up for liquid and dry fertilizer, as well as a pre-emerge herbicide behind the press wheel. How big of a tractor are you planning to use?
Here is one I found in NC... Looks to be in decent shape and really good price for what it is. I would guess $1500 for the ripper and $1000 for the planters, depending if it has the small metal hoppers or the larger fiberglass ones.
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/grd/2838885020.html |
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Somerville, Indiana | is that the experimental planter from downtown Evansville that sold before they moved out on 41?..The chains are turned different to see which way they don't fall off the best. |
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| Thanks for the info on the Lilliston /JD 71 setup . That is a really nice ripper with row cleaners. Wish it was closer like some of this other equipment. Nothing seems to work out to my best interest lately. Freight would rack up to some $$$$ that far away.
Take a look at the link below of the Lilliston ripper spider and let me know waht you think it is worth?????
http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=285267&posts=5...
What you think of the one in this post of Paulk ripper /disc hipper with 114 Burch planters.??
How much you think it would be worth to gamble with???
It is set up for corn now and has not been used in many years. Would cost about $130 per row to change out seed hopper attachments to set it up to plant peanuts. |
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| Well I do know that a lot of peanuts were planted with Burch twin row rigs. I think that this one would work for what you would like to do.with it. It looks to be in decent shape. I wouldn't invest over about $1200 on this one simply because you will have to spend $500+ just in plates and possibly bottoms. Then you may need to replace bearings and the points on the shanks.
The ripper you posted a link to will possibly be worth $1000. It would bring more if it had planters attached.
Ryan |
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| Thanks for your reply. It does seem to be in decent shape just been setting up for many years. The farmer, who recently passed away took very good care of his machinery I could tell, when i went to look at the planters , from seeing his other machinery and just the farm area and shop. I think it will do for me as well to start with just doing small acres. The only draw back is a few parts may not be available cause this model went out of production and certain parts will not interchange with other Burch planters. Most you could fabricate if needed and not available. Yeah it would eat up probably $700 in parts and peanut attchement time you got it ready to plant
In other message you ask what size tractor would I pull Rip n Plant with.
I have 2 wd tractors Deutz-Allis 65hp, John Deere 90hp & Deutz-Allis 122hp
Do you know any thing about IH 295 planter?? I have heard they were good planters and similar to the JD 71.
Do you come across many good JD 71 planters in your area ???
What would a good set cost normally if some may come available?????
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| I don't know much about the 295s, I know of two sets in my area. A 4 row on a rip-n-plant rig and a 2 row.
I've seen a bunch of 2 row 71s around here that are for sale. They normally run about $1000-$1500. There are a few 4 row sets with rip-n-plants that come up from time to time. Most of those run $1200-$2500+. Old 4 rows do come up on sale yards every so often. I try and keep myeyes open for 71s. I plant with a MF 39 I think it is. It will plant corn and beans pretty good. I'd like some 71s so I can plant cotto n and peanuts too, but for now the MF does the job.
Also something to think about is that KMC built 71 style planters at one time and Yetter still make them.
Ryan |
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| Thanks for the update.
Back to the old planters you ever see any of the ole John Deere B-25 planters with the fertilizer boxes on them??
You know about the Allis Chalmers planter.??? I forget the model but it is supposedly similar to the JD 71 |
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| Cant say I've seen many of the older Deeres, but I have heard a few people say that a AC was compariable to the 71s back in the day. I dont know of any currently being used though. |
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114 Burch planter
