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tireman
Posted 1/16/2012 09:19 (#2164811)
Subject: 560 ENGINE STUCK


NC Kansas
I have a 560 Farmall with one piston stuck. We have put ATF fluid PB blaster etc. with no luck. Rocked it back in forth, put jack pressure etc. Any thoughts .
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ccjersey
Posted 1/16/2012 09:30 (#2164832 - in reply to #2164811)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK


Faunsdale, AL
Fire in the hole!

Sounds as if you have the head off, so put a little diesel in and a piece of rag for a wick and light it. The heat helps expand things and break the rust bonding the rings to the cylinder.

Keep working at it, time helps.
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tireman
Posted 1/16/2012 09:38 (#2164848 - in reply to #2164832)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK


NC Kansas
Have not taken the head off that is the last resort. Was hoping to get it broke loose without tearing the engine completly down. Would the heat work with the head still on?
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retento
Posted 1/16/2012 09:40 (#2164849 - in reply to #2164811)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK


Eastern North Carolina
50/50 mix of ATF and Acetone..... Let it soak a few days. Be careful not to pull a sleeve up out of the block if you take the head off....


Edited by retento 1/16/2012 09:40
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Jbatmick
Posted 1/16/2012 09:41 (#2164852 - in reply to #2164811)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK



Hastings, Florida
Had an old Farmall years ago that motor was froze up. Poured mixture diesel fuel and ATF in each cylinder every day for a week, keeping cylinders wet. It finally broke loose by pulling tractor around with a chain, but took a while for the mixture to soak in.
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rustndust
Posted 1/16/2012 10:13 (#2164897 - in reply to #2164852)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK


I used this method on a gas engine....Soak a while with deep creep or something like that, If the valves aren't stuck, release the spring pressure on them so they are both closed....take out the injector or sparkplug, I broke a sparkplug and welded a grease fitting on it, and re-inserted it in the cylinder head....pumped full of grease till the piston broke loose...works on the principle of a hydraulic jack.
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Cen Tex Farmer
Posted 1/16/2012 10:47 (#2164953 - in reply to #2164811)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK


Mound Texas
Marvel mystery oil will work wonders. Don't know what it has in it but it is good stuff.
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Detroit
Posted 1/16/2012 12:43 (#2165135 - in reply to #2164953)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK


Crawfordsville, Arkansas
Real deal genuine soy diesel will do wonders. Had a Deutz power unit that locked up over winter. Yanked injectors out before lunch and filled it full of soy diesel. Let it sit over lunch and it was pumping water by 2pm. It wasn't locked up tight but still wouldn't turn over. I'd imagine if it sat for years it would take a week or two to free it up but that soy diesel will work.

In the past we have used Formbys furnitue polish remover mixed with transmission fluid or trans fluid mixed with gasoline but the furniture polish remover worked better. Sometimes these things are locked so tight that nothing but a hammer and fencepost will do. Had a Moline tractor that had 2 pistons locked up tight. One came out fairly easy but the other took a 10 foot fencepost cut into 2 for sections, a big hammer and me standing on the pto shaft with a pipe wrench and a long pipe on the handle. About an hour later we were standing in a pile of splinters holding a piston. Was able to reuse it too.
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JohnW
Posted 1/16/2012 13:05 (#2165175 - in reply to #2164811)
Subject: RE: 560 ENGINE STUCK


NW Washington
Here is a product that is supposed to free a stuck engine, or your money back... http://www.seized-engine.com/
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Offroadnt
Posted 1/16/2012 14:41 (#2165293 - in reply to #2164811)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK


Southern Alberta Canada
You don't have a open intake hose by any chance? Our old crane has a four cylinder Deutz diesel in the upper and I had exactly the same problem. Turned out the air intake hose was tore open and mice had loaded one cilinder up with canola and about ten percent wheat. Removed the intake manifold and blew out the cylinders while rocking the engine back and forth until it would turn over. You will find that turning the engine over to the exact right position so the intake valve is open just the right way it will blow everything out of the cylinder.
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tireman
Posted 1/16/2012 15:55 (#2165386 - in reply to #2165293)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK


NC Kansas
You can see the rust in the cylinder from the bottom side. We took the push rod apart and can move the engine backwards. The stuck piston was full of water etc.
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RodInNS
Posted 1/16/2012 16:32 (#2165427 - in reply to #2164811)
Subject: RE: 560 ENGINE STUCK


Combustion chamber cleaner. Dodge has some pretty good stuff. Kleen-Flo also has some that's probably just as good. Just remember... get COMBUSTION chamber clean, not carb cleaner.
I've had moderate success with freeing various things with those products. I was never a believer in any penetrant until I tried them.

Rod
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CaseIH2388
Posted 1/16/2012 19:39 (#2165715 - in reply to #2164897)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK


Strasburg North Dakota
I have used the same principle a couple times except i used hydraulics from a tractor instead of the grease gun and it worked well everytime.
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560HighCrop
Posted 1/16/2012 19:52 (#2165738 - in reply to #2164811)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK


west central Iowa
You could take oil pan off and put a jack on one side of crank. Actually raise front of tractor a little. May have to move from side to side after a few days.
If you have fuel tank and valve cover off, might as well pull pistons and clean up the rings and rough spots in cyl. walls.
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blacknight
Posted 1/16/2012 21:55 (#2166060 - in reply to #2165738)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK


Cheapest alternative here and it works every time, this is no joke guys!!! Coca-Cola some of you may laugh but I had a Ford jubliee years ago guy pulled out of the trees&engine was stuck hard&I mean hard, all four pistons stuck, poured each cylinder full off coca-cola, waited 2 days, started to rock engine back&forth she come loose, Broke the rings though, had to clean piston ring grooves, installed new rings honed the cylinders good to go. Also worked on an old 5010 J.D. scraper tractor too that was stuck like no other, Never had much luck with anything else, even tried Kano-Kroil, didn't work either. The ole Coca-Cola will do the trick, low budget engine breaker by all means.
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PatCMO
Posted 1/16/2012 22:12 (#2166116 - in reply to #2166060)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK


Pilot Grove, Missouri
+1 on the Coke. Patrick
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Jbatmick
Posted 1/17/2012 08:12 (#2166625 - in reply to #2166116)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK



Hastings, Florida

And just think what that COKE is doing to your stomach.

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blacknight
Posted 1/17/2012 22:04 (#2168442 - in reply to #2166060)
Subject: Re: 560 ENGINE STUCK


I know! Ha!ha!ha! sure mixes good with crown royal, windsor, jim beam&jack daniels too!
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