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Wallis, TX | We're looking to purchase a waste oil furnace for the shop to supplement the infrared heat we now have. (Gas bill is killing me)!!! Best price I've found is a Lanair 300K btu for $4599 plus $849 for flue kit. This doesn't include tank, I'll use an old tote for the oil and hang from rafters or build stand. Anyone have problems with this brand? Also looked at a Papaburn kit but don't like the daily cleaning, or will that be the case with the furnace as well? I want to leave the heater on overnight, is that foolish, or are they just as safe as any other furnace? |
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| All of them take plenty of maintenance, and, I wouldn't leave any of them on overnight. One of the shops where my Dad works has a name brand waste oil heater, and they've come into the shop more than once to an oil slick. |
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SE Nebraska | We've had a Lanair for about 10 years. Very happy. Upgraded to their mx200 about 3 years ago, replacing one of their older models. Both were good furnaces. Dad has clean burns in the shop at work, and they seem to have lots of problems with them. We do leave ours on overnite occasionally and never had a problem. I think from a safety standpoint there is little to worry about. At least none more than any other furnace. The oil spill thing could be a concern. We plumbed ours and added some safety pump shutoff switches to virtually eliminate any chance of this happening. Been long enough ago that I don't remember exactly what we did. But I think the main thing was to add a switch with a timer on it to only let the pump run X number of minutes every time it started. (this is a pump that brings oil from outside tank to small inside tank) |
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| I have just the oppostie experience as RYANK. Clean burn here that is on 24-7 from freeze up to spring. Yes there is some maintenance but it's usually got more to do with the oil your using.(dirty, water, synthetic, etc...) I got mine from a tractor dealer that took it out and put 2 new ones in and this 25+ yr old works better than the new ones they're using. I've heard nothing but bad things from the lanairs.(Almost bought one for myself) There salesman would never leave me alone either, took yrs for them to stop calling. If I were to buy a new one it would be a clean burn-Hands Down....FWIW |
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North Central Ohio | I've had a Clean Burn for over 17 years , I turn it on in the fall & shut it off in the spring . My shop is 70 degrees 24 hours a day . I used to do quite a bit of paint work and got used to the heat . I've never had any problems of oil spills . Best thing you can do it run diesel through it the last several times it runs in the spring to flush it out for the summer . |
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Waupun, WI | Clean burn 350 Boiler on all winter long, never had a oil spill |
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lascassas, tn | +10 sugarbeet, 1998 yr 4008 hrs. still runs great, model 1800 i think. |
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| I use copper lines on the entire system and the only oil leak I get is when I fill my bulk tank:)
My bulk tank is an old fuel oil furnace barrel in the corner with the pump mounted on top.
Edited by sugarbeet 1/13/2012 15:14
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Statesville, NC | Have owned two Clean Burn heaters. Very good units, bought from a dealer, which I think is important. I don't think Clean Burn will sell direct or mail order. Very reliable and good safety systems, no fear of an oil slick. |
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algona iowa | I have an Energy logic 140H furnace put in fall of 04 it has 21500 hours on it we clean it every 3 weeks thru the winter and may be 150.00 dollars a year in maintenance. Best money I have spent on our shop. |
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central mich | Just buy a Clean Burn. We have had several over the years and the Clean Burn has performed the best. Not perfect but a whole lot better that the two or three other leading brands.
One thing with the Clean Burn and the others as well is keep a good rain cap on the stack. The Clean Burns will have the rear two or three tubes rust out if rain is allowed to enter the furnace. |
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central mich | Our Clean Burn is on all the time. Our shop is always 60 at night and 70 during work time. It is on a programmable thermostat. The furnace runs from Oct-Nov to April. |
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central mich | Our Clean Burn is on all the time. Our shop is always 60 at night and 70 during work time. It is on a programmable thermostat. The furnace runs from Oct-Nov to April. Our oldest furnace (275,000 btu) has 3298 hours on it (as of today) and is in a 50x60x16 shop. We have two other furnaces with less hours in our other shop. |
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Upstate New York | +20 with clean burn! Had mine for three years with zero problems. When I got mine they had a special where you could buy the tank and stand for the furnace to sit above it for 500$ bucks. |
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chortitz, manitoba | All of them.
There's a bunch around here and the guys are always fixing them. Local shop just bought a new one at $15k. Old one, bought new, lasted 9 years. Put in about 4k worth of parts into it in the last 9 years.
Gotta be careful with the used oil. Antifreeze, water, dirt, metal filings..... all in the oil. These guys ran the used stuff through 3 filter systems and still problems. |
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NC Nebraska | We do it a little different. Have a 5,000 gal tank outside behind our shop that is in an enclosed tin shed to keep out of the elements. The suction hose from tank to heater is wrapped in insulation with heat tape, then the hose is about 40' long inside the shop to warm up more before it hits the burner. We have a Shenandoah waste heater, never had much trouble with the heater in the last 10 years. If there is trouble, it has to do with filtering the oil prior. We've got an old pickup setup with a 300 gal tank in back and suction that runs off the vacumm to go around and collect oil from pivots and/or neighbors with barrels full. Once full we pressurize the tank and blow it into the big 5,000 gal tank. No matter how you do it, you're going to make a mess once in a while... |
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| How much oil do these heaters take per hour? Just curious how much I would have to have to heat a shop all winter. |
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Saskatchewan | I had a blackgold waist oil furnace in my shop for 10 years, Dirty, Messy, Smoky, Noisy,and takes up allot of space. If your adding one to save on heating cost i would concider insulating and better doors to solve the problem. Radiant heat is out of the way and is trouble free. I threw out my waist oil furnace and it will never return in my shop. I just hated the mess around it it was always a fire hazard, filters and nozzels plunging up and slopping oil around when trying to fix. |
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NW Washington | I would sure check out a Reznor waste oil heater or boiler. http://www.reznorheaters.com/products/index.htm
Some of the other brands seem to have too much blacksmith engineering in their designs. |
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NC Nebraska | Mayber a half gallon/ hr I'm guessing. If I remember right I think we've using 10-12 gal/ day. We found a big tank for cheap. |
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| I have 2 Lanair furnaces, MX250 and a MXD 200. Have had very little problems with them. Biggest thing to do to keep them maintenace free is to filter the oil before filling the furnace tank. They will dicker on the price also, and have good support if you do have a problem.
Edited by TD15 1/13/2012 20:28
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algona iowa | I think ours uses 1-1.25 gallons an hour we heat a 80x100 with 2500-2800 gallons a year. |
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north,ala | we had a lanair now clean burn, much happier with clean burn. lanair was ok for 2 years then its somthing all the time. 1 part on our clean burn in last 5 years. |
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West Central Iowa | Had a Black Gold waste oil furnace for almost 20 years, very happy with it, replaced it with a Lanair......big mistake. I spent more money on the Lanair after 2 years then I did in 20 with the Black Gold. Lanair combustion chamber warranty is worthless. They admitted thy had a design problem with their chambers, yet they would not honor their warranty. Also the Lanair uses a LOT more oil to heat the same area.
Just remember.... it is not free heat, even if you have plenty of your own oil, you will spend time and money keeping it clean and working.
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Nusbaum Farms LLC Bellfountain, OR | We've had a Lanair since the beginning of '07. No major complaints, just wish there was a dealer close by so that if I need anything, I wouldn't have to wait 2-3 days for it while the shop is freezing. I'd have no problem buying one again. |
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NC IA | I"m surprised no one has mentioned a Reznor. I've had mine 13 years, its served me well, I think I've had one service call in that time, to update the reset button. You need to take about an hour every month to clean 3 simple filters, and about 2-3 hours at least once a season to take apart the combustion/heat exchager and shop-vac out the ash. And I have the suction screen about a foot from the bottom of the tank and keep the antifreeze drained out the bottom valve frequently. They DO NOT like antifreeze. Not even a spoonful. A good chimney with a good draft is very important.
If you accept oil from others, or worse yet go pick it up and transport it yourself, be aware of local/state laws concerning waste oil disposal and transportation of hazmat.
One thing I don't like is the mess, but I tell myself if I didn't have the furnace I would still have to deal with my waste oil and still have a mess. At least I have a mess with heat.
Mine is 175k BTU and burns one gallon per running hour.
If you have a long-term, ample supply of waste oil, its a good way to go. Also on a sidenote, they will burn #2 diesel or heating oil just fine too.
If I were to do it all over again, I would buy the same furnace again.
In 2000, my furnace was $4500 plus $1500 for the tank & stand. I have no idea what the same thing would cost today. |
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SW Ohio | Clean burn +1
Bro fills this tank at work to feed four furnaces, all Clean Burns, and they run out before winter is over
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Midwest | Mom and dad's neighbor has a waste oil furnace-of sorts. He burns wood, but leaves five gallon buckets of whatever fluids he's changed-hydraulic, transmission, oil, whatever-next to the woodburner. Whenever he walks by in the wintertime, he just dips a coffee can in the bucket of whatever, and opens the door and throws it on the fire.
Amazingly, he has only burned his shop down once.
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| I have a reznor....what/where are the three simple filters? |
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NC IA | (1) suction screen in the tank, (2) filter before the lift/charge pump, and (3) the little tiny screen up on the furnace, behind a 1" brass hex plug, its between the pre-heater and the nozzle. |
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Waste oil heaters, any brand to stay away from?
