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John EIA
Posted 8/13/2007 21:50 (#186846)
Subject: Telehandler vs forklift


Since we decided on the Great Plains planter we will need another forklift to set the boxes on the planter. We are considering a telehandler rather than a forklift because the telehandler will also do the work of our skid steer. This will mean one machine instead of two. Our other forklift is on the three point.

Any thoughts?

TIA John EIA
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deeredriver
Posted 8/13/2007 21:58 (#186850 - in reply to #186846)
Subject: Re: Telehandler vs forklift


Alma NE
Go for it once youve got one you will never look back they are great things
which one are you looking at???
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plowboy
Posted 8/13/2007 22:13 (#186859 - in reply to #186846)
Subject: Re: Telehandler vs forklift



Brazilton KS
A forklift isn't going to do too well away from the shop. A telehandler will go in the field just fine. A telehandler is one of those things you use a couple times every day for something, plus whatever major purpose it is intended for.

If you are very far from home, I would suggest a set of forks to use with the service truck so you don't have to drag the telehandler all over creation just to set a seed box on a few times a day.
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agboy
Posted 8/13/2007 22:42 (#186893 - in reply to #186846)
Subject: RE: Telehandler vs forklift



Flandreau, SD

I don't follow the replacing a skid steer part?   We have both and I can't think of anything I would use either one for because they do them the same.  one or the other does the job at hand way better.  You will use a telie alot if you get one but I would not go as far as being able to get rid of your skid to justify it. 

Will your 3 pt lift not work in the field and get a forklift for the shop/yard.

Not talking you out of a telehandler but what other uses you got for it.

Larger skid steer?



Edited by agboy 8/13/2007 22:50
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John EIA
Posted 8/13/2007 23:01 (#186907 - in reply to #186846)
Subject: RE: Telehandler vs forklift


To answer some of the above questions, our original idea was to get a forklift for around the place and follow the planter with the three point forklift. Our skidsteer only gets 20-30 hours of use a year, it is not big enough to lift seed boxes, in fact even the largest SS are questionable. In our mind it is either a telehandler with forks and a bucket or find a reasonably priced 5000 lb forklift and keep the skidsteer. There is too much money tied up to have both. We haven't gotten to any specific makes yet, but are looking at the general idea. Need to make a decision shortly after the first of the year.

John EIA
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plowboy
Posted 8/13/2007 23:43 (#186923 - in reply to #186907)
Subject: RE: Telehandler vs forklift



Brazilton KS

This is what I'm thinking of: 

 

My theory is that the time spent moving a forklift, telehandler, loader, or whatever all over the county would be more then enough to cover the slight unhandiness which would be inherent in handling the seed boxes with a crane on the service truck which i probably already there.  I guarantee the crane is worth having even if it doesn't get used for seed. 

 

I haven't used one of these, so it's possible that they are impossible to manage, but I'll have one if we decide to get a GP planter. 

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Bluepaint
Posted 8/14/2007 01:06 (#186953 - in reply to #186846)
Subject: RE: Telehandler vs forklift



Manitoba canada
JCB loadall ....... The original tele-handler and still "generally" the best.

Edited by Bluepaint 8/14/2007 01:09
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Richo
Posted 8/14/2007 05:45 (#186975 - in reply to #186846)
Subject: RE: Telehandler vs forklift


Wouldn't even consider anything else but a Telehandler, and theres no other make to have but a JCB Loadall. John deere telehandlers aren't even worth a look, in my opinion. They have terrible air intake system, causing overheating in slightly dusty conditions. JCB have been around for so long, they have it down to a perfection, they got reverser on fan, to clean rad which is a must in farming conditions. Anyway, just my opinion, good luck mate.
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fraserb
Posted 8/14/2007 06:41 (#186982 - in reply to #186953)
Subject: RE: Telehandler vs forklift


Definatly go for the jcb if you decide on a handler, we have tried all the other makes and have broken them all. We put 3000hrs a year on the main machine, 2500hrs on the second one and 1500hrs on the run about machine, so we work them pretty hard.
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TJG in MS
Posted 8/14/2007 07:15 (#186995 - in reply to #186846)
Subject: RE: Telehandler vs forklift


Itta Bena Mississippi
No comparison, go with the telehandler. Had 586 Cases and still have a 486 Deere, but our SkyTrak is a way more versatile machine. Use it every day, even more than the backhoe.
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dvswia
Posted 8/14/2007 07:40 (#187002 - in reply to #186907)
Subject: RE: Telehandler vs forklift


sw corner ia.
if you only put 20hrs/yr on your lift rig I would suggest a gnuse 3pt forklift. I have a 2ton unit on the back of a 3010 with a lot of weight on the front and can handle seed boxes. I end up with it mounted most of the year too. Less than two grand with a 3rd link cylinder. Put the rest into a unverferth belt tender trailer that has a self loading belt elevator.
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John EIA
Posted 8/14/2007 08:58 (#187027 - in reply to #187002)
Subject: RE: Telehandler vs forklift


I guess that I am not being very clear, currently we have a three point fork lift with fixed forks. We also have a skid steer that is not big enough to lift seed boxes that is only used a few hours a year but is indispensible for those uses. We were going to get a used forklift that would lift 5000 or more pounds to handle the lift jobs around the farm and use the three point to take the boxes off the trailer and set them on the planter. Another three point lift would require another tractor which we don't have available and it also is hard on the neck looking back all the time.

We then got the bright idea of purchasing a telehandler instead of a forklift and that machine would also do the job of the skid steer. One motor and drive unit instead of two.

We handle the seed boxes as well as a lot of chemical containers and shuttles.

John EIA
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tallgrassneil
Posted 8/14/2007 13:16 (#187142 - in reply to #186846)
Subject: Re: Telehandler vs forklift



West Texas
I'd go with the telehandler too. It's like having a choice between one 9/16" open end wrench or one 12" adjustable wrench, and you have six different bolt sizes.
I have a Deere. I understand they arent being made under the Deere brand anymore. Just as well, the "famed german engineering" sure doesn't live up to hype. I'll get a JCB next time.
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dvswia
Posted 8/14/2007 21:08 (#187385 - in reply to #187027)
Subject: RE: Telehandler vs forklift


sw corner ia.
ok. You will love the tele.
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plowboy
Posted 8/15/2007 00:30 (#187519 - in reply to #186846)
Subject: Re: Telehandler vs forklift



Brazilton KS
I can only say that based on the comments so far, JCB must have a different set of magic for their telehandlers then anything else British I've ever had the privilege of working with.
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J. Sheehan
Posted 8/15/2007 01:05 (#187527 - in reply to #186846)
Subject: RE: Telehandler vs forklift


Sunnyside, WA
I would stay as far away from JCB as possible. Speaking from experience.
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agboy
Posted 8/15/2007 08:02 (#187585 - in reply to #187519)
Subject: Re: Telehandler vs forklift



Flandreau, SD
You know we have two JCB 550's,  we have never had any but,  So I was not going to say there are the best by anymeans.  We have had no real problems with them but they are not a main loader either.
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plowboy
Posted 8/15/2007 10:58 (#187675 - in reply to #187585)
Subject: Re: Telehandler vs forklift



Brazilton KS
My experience is with the JCB Fastrac, the Cat TH62, and a relative/landowner with numerous Fords.  They all have similar issues, mostly electrical in nature. 
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J. Sheehan
Posted 8/15/2007 11:31 (#187701 - in reply to #187675)
Subject: Re: Telehandler vs forklift


Sunnyside, WA
We had a TH62 first then a JCB 540 next and both had their share of electrical issues. Telehandlers are meant to be used in construction or a low demand farming use, like loading a few hay bales on a truck, or an overgrown all terrain forklift. They are not meant for several thousand hours per year usage.

You wouldn't believe how happy hay truckers are to see that we got rid of our telehandlers. They say the biggest slow down for them unloading is the telehandler wouldn't work!

Cost usually gets to be the biggest hurdle for most to go with a payloader. But cost per hour of operation is so much lower. I couldn't afford either telehandler after they went off warranty.

Edited by J. Sheehan 8/15/2007 15:23
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