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Ernie
Posted 8/13/2007 10:50 (#186641)
Subject: JD 9760 combine fire



North End I-15
Custom cutter had his combine catch on fire yesterday . fire started @ computer above the fuel tank. Lucky I had 400 gal water in sprayer sitting in field. This is the 2 nd on of his to go in the past few days. The first one they caught be for it did more than toast the computer and wire harmess. This fire got the fuel tank also . Burned a basket ball sized hole through the rear shield , burnt paint off the unload auger.
Walt called JD Tech support and they said his made # 5 for the day in this local area. 97 degrees and 10% humidity . Got down to 36 degrees last night , currently 53 . fire smoke from the Rockies is worst than I have seen here . Visibility was down to about 3 miles as sun set. Normal vision here is unlimited.
Will try to get pictures today . Neighbors 9650 burned last year , over $20,000 in damage . It caught on fire again this year. Different spot . Up behind and on top of rotor. JD has a problem ...........
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Brandon SWIA
Posted 8/13/2007 11:46 (#186653 - in reply to #186641)
Subject: Not just John Deere


When I was up in the Pacific Northwest, combine fires were a problem on all brands. One operation was running 4 8010's in bluegrass and had one guy full-time who drove around with a pickup set up to fight fires. He would smell each combine as it went by to check for smoke. Sounded like they were trying several different modifications to reduce fires.

Brandon
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Jon Hagen
Posted 8/13/2007 12:23 (#186667 - in reply to #186653)
Subject: Re: JD 9760 combine fire



Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND
All it takes is fluffy flammable oily crop material and super low humidity. Flax and sunflower come to mind for my area.

Edited by Jon Hagen 8/13/2007 12:24
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hinfarm
Posted 8/13/2007 12:32 (#186673 - in reply to #186667)
Subject: Re: JD 9760 combine fire



Amherst WI
When the 50 series Deere combines came out I thought a number of them went up in smoke because the fuel tanks were not vented good enough and they would eventually crack.
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Grow
Posted 8/13/2007 12:48 (#186677 - in reply to #186667)
Subject: Re: JD 9760 combine fire


Combines need fire detection loops in fire prone areas like the big jets and automatic extinguishing systems.
Right now how does the poor operator up front know what's cookin and smokin behind him.
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Bernie nw ON
Posted 8/13/2007 13:24 (#186681 - in reply to #186641)
Subject: Re: JD 9760 combine fire



Thunder Bay, Ontario, Great White North
Why don't they put supression systems on combines? All the forestry equipment around here has been outfitted with detection and suppression systems for years.
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billybob
Posted 8/13/2007 14:00 (#186687 - in reply to #186677)
Subject: Re: JD 9760 combine fire


68340
Someone make a system where there is a plastic hose that runs where ever you want it and it is pressurized with material to put out a fire. When the fire burns through the plastic hose it vents the fire killing material. I do not know who sells it. When I saw it they had it looped around the motor to kill a motor fire on combine.
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Wm.
Posted 8/13/2007 14:06 (#186688 - in reply to #186681)
Subject: Re: JD 9760 combine fire


I'm guessing for the same reason auto lube is an option, cost. Not many would buy it to offset the cost of offering it as an option.
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mike in sw mn
Posted 8/13/2007 15:23 (#186711 - in reply to #186641)
Subject: Re: JD 9760 combine fire


Walnut Grove MN USA
All Top Fuel Funny car race cars in the NHRA are required to have fire suppresion systems on them. Just basicly fire bottles with hoses going to the critical areas, namely the engines and triggered by a lever or button by the driver. Have seen some pretty big fires put out in a hurry. Problem is a driver has the fire bomb right in front of him/her which isn't so on a combine. Even a high temp engine compartment alarm would be helpful on a combine and in other likely areas as well. Least an opperator would get more warningthat way. I have always thought that a fire bottle should be installed in such a way that it could be triggered from the ground and a hose run into the engine compartment instead of lugging a 30 lb bottle up a ladder that has to be opened up. would save a few seconds plus not get near a hot fire.
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Ernie
Posted 8/13/2007 17:11 (#186747 - in reply to #186641)
Subject: Pictures ... 9750



North End I-15
The other 2 machines are 9860's Had one burn the harness off it the other day also.



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mtbrights
Posted 8/13/2007 19:51 (#186794 - in reply to #186747)
Subject: Re: JD 9760 combine fire


Carter Montana
If your cutting Barley, and an educated guess would say you may be, you may have to blow them off at luch and supper. Lots of trouble in this area also, though most of our problems were last year and the year before. Windy days and Barley seem to rise to the top of the problem list.
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mtbrights
Posted 8/13/2007 20:03 (#186803 - in reply to #186794)
Subject: Forgot to mention


Carter Montana
If the machines have choppers try lowering the spreader table a hole or two so the discharge is headed down as opposed to into the radiator. It seemed to help ours in windy conditions.

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Ernie
Posted 8/13/2007 23:24 (#186915 - in reply to #186803)
Subject: Barley and wind +



North End I-15
low humidity is what the problem was . Machine was blown off less than 2 hours before fire. JD Tech crew will be in to fix it for free , insurance will buy the parts
No choppers on these machines. Humidity was @ 12 % @ 6pm last night. Got to a low of 36 degrees with no dew but straw sure was tough this morning.
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plowboy
Posted 8/14/2007 00:07 (#186934 - in reply to #186915)
Subject: RE: Barley and wind +



Brazilton KS
I think the problem is more a matter of all the parts which should be suppressing the fire being made of flammable materials.   Make the sheet metal out of sheet metal instead of plastic....sheet metal will help to contain the fire.  Plastic feeds it.  This isn't rocket science, one would think a building full of engineers could figure it out.  
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tedbear
Posted 8/14/2007 07:32 (#187001 - in reply to #186711)
Subject: Re: JD 9760 combine fire-speaking of NHRA


Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn.
Just got back yesterday from BIR raceway where a big drag race was held last weekend. Kenny Bernstein used his Fire bottles in at least one of his runs with his Funny Car.

He was beaten by John Force in the Final. In Top Fuel, his son Brandon Bernstein did beat Larry Dixon for top honors. I was hoping that both Father & Son could have won the top events.

Concerning combines, I just received a Cleaning & Inspection Guide from Deere in the mail last week. This Guide is pretty much common sense but it shows some areas to watch and clean that I hadn't thought of.

Edited by tedbear 8/14/2007 07:33
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Ernie
Posted 8/14/2007 14:04 (#187172 - in reply to #186934)
Subject: RE: Barley and wind +



North End I-15
even if only over the fuel tank. there is a hole large enough to stuff a foot ball in where it burned. We drained 140+ gallons of diesel out . Had it burned much longer it would have engulfed the combine . Only burnt about 100 sq ft in 3 different patched of the stubble. Lucky we had fire equipment in the field with the combines. Walt rode around on the machines prior to fire for an hour looking to see where and if a fire was imminent. vigilance is the key word. Need an observer in the field and lots of stops to blow off machines .
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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 8/15/2007 06:22 (#187563 - in reply to #186711)
Subject: Re: JD 9760 combine fire...suppression systems



Chebanse, IL.....
Actually, I've always thought that insurance companies would get more involved in the development/distribution of fire-suppression systems for combines. I'd think it would be to their financial advantage to encourage them in whatever way they could.
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