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garvo
Posted 12/15/2011 08:43 (#2104100)
Subject: dual pto for 8400 john deere?can i switch


western iowa,by Denison
can you put a dual pto on a single 1000 8000 seris tractor-and what would it cost,would like the factory kit-small1000rpm,540.and large 1000
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SDFarmboy
Posted 12/15/2011 09:51 (#2104249 - in reply to #2104100)
Subject: Re: dual pto for 8400 john deere?can i switch


Takes a lot of work to change, different casting etc., it can be done, approx. $3,000. Contact your JD dealer.
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J. Sheehan
Posted 12/15/2011 09:55 (#2104259 - in reply to #2104100)
Subject: RE: dual pto for 8400 john deere?can i switch


Sunnyside, WA
I had one in my 8110 and switched it back to the regular large 1 3/4" 1000 only. If you mainly use only the large shaft, it seems to have a lot of slop. Our 8110 is a tmr tractor, so its 100% pto use. I have thought about putting it in the 8300 just to have 540 and that tractor does almost no pto work.
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J.Stacey
Posted 12/15/2011 19:18 (#2105105 - in reply to #2104259)
Subject: Re: dual pto for 8400 john deere?can i switch


Yes it can be done. You drain the hydraulic oil, remove the pto shield, remove the bolts holding the pto housing to the back of the differential case and remove the pto out of the tractor. The pto speed sensor will need to be relocated also. If you are going from large 1000 to the combo unit then the speed sensor moves from the right side of the differential case by the hydraulic filter to the bottom of the pto on the back of the tractor. Usually if you can find a tractor with one on then you can trade with the dealer and have them switch it. It is fairly simple to do. There is not a gasket used on the housing but sealer is needed. The convertabe small 1000/500/large 1000 unit is more sloppy in the large 1000 setting because the large 1000 shaft isn't as long and is just a stub shaft held in with a snap ring.
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motram5455
Posted 12/15/2011 22:05 (#2105536 - in reply to #2104100)
Subject: Re: dual pto for 8400 john deere?can i switch


Mid-East Nebraska
Tractor not equipped with optional 540/1000 RPM PTO drive.

The 540/1000 RPM optional PTO drive is a factory only installed option.


There are three (3) ways to equip a tractor with optional PTO.



OPTION NO. I

Optional PTO design is interchangeable with the standard 1 3/4 in. -1000 rpm design. They can be swapped between any 80X0 wheel and track tractor. Note: On wheel tractors the harness will reach both PTO speed sensor locations.



OPTION NO. II

Order optional 1 3/4 in.-1000, 1 3/8 in.-1000, and 1/3/8in.-540 rpm power take off order code #2420 on a tractor being ordered by your dealership and swap assemblies as in option I above.

IMPORTANT: Use the 1 3/8 in. 540 rpm PTO shaft only on implements requiring less than 75 PTO horsepower. Use the 1 3/8 in. -1000 rpm PTO shaft only on implements requiring 150 PTO horsepower. Use the 1 3/8 in. -540 and 1000 rpm option for light-duty farm use only. Either option is not intended to transmit full engine power. Use the 1 3/4in.-1000 rpm PTO shaft if heavier loads are expected.



OPTION NO. III

Use the attached parts listings to order the individual parts needed to build and install the 540/1000 rpm optional design on any 80X0 tractor. Note: This installation will cost more due to individual parts costs and labor incurred in ordering and assembly of parts. Complete assembly and installation of parts per Repair Manual TM 1575.



TRACK TRACTORS:

PTO OPTION NOT AVAILUABLE FROM THE FACTORY: The 540/1000 rpm optional PTO design can be installed on the track tractors by using options I, II, and III. The speed sensor harness will have to be spliced to extend to the rear PTO sensor location on the tractor.



PARTS LISTINGS:

The following parts are needed to assemble the internal PTO drive, replacing the removed standard 1000 rpm 1 3/4 in. PTO drive components:

R122904 (1) Housing, PTO output

JD7292 (2) CUP, taper roller bearing

JD7378(2) Cone, bearing

JD8100 (1) Cone, taper roller bearing

JD7427 (1) Cup, taper roller bearing

JD10527 (2) Cone, bearing

JD8247 (2) Cup, taper roller bearing

44M7070 (2) Pin, dowel

R122908 (1) Shaft, output drive

R125980 (1) Gear, 540 output drive

R95784 (1) Washer, thrust

L33035 (1) Ring, snap

R125178 (1) Collar, shift

R93485 (1) Spring

R122750 (1) O-ring

R125086 (1) Plunger

34M7187 (1) Pin, spring (sub to 34M7074)

R122906 (1) Gear countershaft

R126104 (1) Gear, input

R122907 (1) Carrier, PTO output housing

19M7810(8) Screw, hex flange

RE47328 (1) Kit, snap ring (kit includes the following parts)

R95153 (1) Snap, ring

R95154 (1) Snap, ring

R95155 (1) Snap, ring

R95155 (1) Snap, ring

R95156 (1) Snap, ring

R95157 (1) Snap, ring

R106843 (1) Ring, sealing

R106839 (1) Retainer

R88246 (1) Screw, special cap

RE38725 (1) Seal, oil

R122910 (1) Shaft, PTO output

R38221 (1) Ring, snap

R122912 (1) Shaft, PTO input

NOTE: Following capscrews can be reused to install new PTO housing to differential case.

R153676 (5) Screw, hex flange

R126027 (4) Screw, cap, special

L64456 (1) Guard. Power shift

R27329 (2) Screw, special drive (guard)



Following parts are required to build 1 3/8 in.540 rpm and 1 3/8 in. -1000 rpm PTO shaft assembly that is bolted to rear PTO housing, when switching from 1 3/4in. 1000 rpm stub shaft.

R122914 (1) Housing, optional PTO output

JD7297 (2) Cup, taper roller bearing

JD7370 (2) Cone, bearing

UN5880 (0.2) Grease, JDM J13e4 lubricating

R122909 (1) Shaft optional PTO output



Use following snap rings for adjusting countershaft endplay, using thickest snap ring that will fit into the groove:

T44931 (1) Ring, snap

T44932 (1) Ring, snap

T44933 (2) Ring, snap

T44934 (1) Ring, snap

T44935 (1) Ring, snap

T44936 (1) Ring, snap

T44937 (1) Ring, snap

RE60467 (2) Seal, grease

R27329 (2) Screw, special drive

R122915 (1) Collar

19M7810 (4) Screw, hex flange



MAGNETIC PICKUP SPEED SENSOR

RE71121 PTO Speed sensor needs to be relocated from LH side of pump drive housing (near mid frame flange in front of hyd pump) to rear of tractor on rear PTO output housing. Following parts are needed to plug sensor opening in pump drive housing, when moved, installing the 540/1000 rpm PTO option.

R101085 (1) Plug

51M7044 (1) O-ring


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