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kuch
Posted 12/4/2011 22:49 (#2084935)
Subject: Steiger 335 or small 4wd compared to row crop tractors.



I recently priced a couple different row crop tractors with front duals. They were 2011 New Holland T8330 240hp and T8360 270hp. To start with I don't know how row crop tractors have gotten so expensive for a engine with wheels, but list is $249,000 on the T8360 and with discounts it is still in the $200,000 range. The question I have is it seems you could buy a used Steiger 335 with 1,000 hrs. and 335 hp. for the $170,000 range. It looks like you would get more tractor for the money with the 4wd. You can still buy them with 3pt. and pto. What are the advantages and disadvantages of a machine like this? I currenty have 2 MFWD tractors and am looking to upgrade one of them. Looking for something to disk with, maybe strip till, fall chisel, and possibly pull our 24 row planter not all the above, but these are all possible uses. TIA
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Rockman
Posted 12/4/2011 23:20 (#2085006 - in reply to #2084935)
Subject: RE: Steiger 335 or small 4wd compared to row crop tractors.


Not sure if you check the classifieds. I've got for sale a loaded 325 with 1800 hours in exceptional condition. I've always like the row crop 4WD better than the MFDs. Although the largest MFD we've run is a MX285.

Check it out. It's a must see.
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TS79
Posted 12/4/2011 23:23 (#2085014 - in reply to #2084935)
Subject: Re: Steiger 335 or small 4wd compared to row crop tractors.


NE Iowa
We were in the same boat two years ago. Ended up buying a stx330 with pto & 3pt. Luckily found one with row crop tires already on it. Paid $140,000, 2006 with 1200hrs, we've been very happy with it so far. Pull a 24 row planter, put it on the ripper this fall when the other 4wd was tied up and might switch to a 24 row side dress bar in the future.. Neighbors think were crazy but its very universal and cheap compared to a MFWD. I really like it on the planter, sit up much higher so you can see everything, easy to get in/out of tight driveways, haven't had a wet planting season with it yet but it would be a plus then too.

Bought ours from these guys http://www.ag-productsinc.com/ Never even looked at it, very good guys to work with.
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kuch
Posted 12/4/2011 23:40 (#2085035 - in reply to #2085006)
Subject: Re: Steiger 335 or small 4wd compared to row crop tractors.



Thanks I'll look at the classifieds. I'm not familiar with the model numbers and sizes. I deffinetly don't need 375 hp., but was just browsing.
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Fawazhay
Posted 12/5/2011 03:50 (#2085147 - in reply to #2084935)
Subject: Re: Steiger 335 or small 4wd compared to row crop tractors.


Northern CA
I ended up with a 4wd back in 2005 because I couldn't afford a MFD. Best decision I was ever forced into. My 4wd at 305 HP uses about the same amount of fuel per hour as my neighbors 7810. They pull a 16 foot chisel and I pull a 32.
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CaseFarmer
Posted 12/5/2011 07:09 (#2085185 - in reply to #2085147)
Subject: Re: Steiger 335 or small 4wd compared to row crop tractors.


Flora IL
There are a ton of 335's out there 200 and less bucks and low hours.. I like small 4wds over other tractors
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Notazo6
Posted 12/5/2011 08:30 (#2085267 - in reply to #2084935)
Subject: Re: Steiger 335 or small 4wd compared to row crop tractors.


South Central South Dakota
I have Run a 8970jd with 710 metrics for planting with what i could see no adverse effects. Granted this was on no-till and strip-tilled ground. Would like row crop tires for these instances but not sure if we wana spend the money on the 8 rims and tires to get it there. So we have kinda started to look at track tractors as a possiblity. there a bit cheaper then the MFD of comparible size. and can do just as much or more from what i have read. We are looking into renting a 765C Cat next spring to see how we like it before we decide to purchase.
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boog
Posted 12/5/2011 10:54 (#2085475 - in reply to #2084935)
Subject: Re: Steiger 335 or small 4wd compared to row crop tractors.



The only problem I see in your post is that you're comparing a new mfd vs a 4wd with 1,000 hrs. What would the cost be comparing an mfd with 1,000 hrs compared to the 4wd? We have considered going to a smaller 4wd in place of our mfd planter tractor (MX275). Problem we run into is that CIH has decided there wasn't enough demand for a small 4wd like the 335 so that size is no longer offered. Smallest 4wd hey currently offer is a 350 hp

Edited by boog 12/5/2011 10:58
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deersniper
Posted 12/5/2011 13:42 (#2085689 - in reply to #2085475)
Subject: Re: Steiger 335 or small 4wd compared to row crop tractors.


If they were selling a lot of them, CNH wouldn't have discontinued them.
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waterfowler
Posted 12/5/2011 16:07 (#2085871 - in reply to #2085689)
Subject: Re: Steiger 335 or small 4wd compared to row crop tractors.


Wheatley AR
Don't bet on it.
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CaseFarmer
Posted 12/5/2011 17:15 (#2085964 - in reply to #2085871)
Subject: Re: Steiger 335 or small 4wd compared to row crop tractors.


Flora IL
They change numbers yearly now... I kinda agree theyve sold a few 335's.... There everywhere
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Illini90
Posted 12/5/2011 23:02 (#2086854 - in reply to #2085475)
Subject: Re: Steiger 335 or small 4wd compared to row crop tractors.


Central Illinois
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the Steiger 350 is just an updated 335 (same frame) for Tier 4a emissions with the Iveco motor and DEF instead of the 8.9/9.0 Cummins engine in the 335.

I will disagree with some of the other posters as I prefer to operate the Magnums better than a small Steiger. I believe the Magnums are smoother and more refined, with easier entry/exit and just basically more comfortable. I believe small 4wd's have their place in row crop application (planting, etc) or on grain carts with their superior height. If you are looking for primarily a tillage tractor then I would look one size up to a large frame machine (375, 380, 385, or new 400) with more engine displacement/torque and generally just much heavier built machines.
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