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NE Ohio | After unsuccessfully searching the past few months for a low hour JD 7630 (MFWD/IVT) we looking to buy new. A demo by our dealer has us ready to pull the trigger on a 6210R. This tractor will primarily be used for fertilizer spreading, planting (12 row JD 1770NT), back-up tractor for tillage, side dressing, hay mowing, etc. I'm interested to see if anyone else here has bought a 6R or 7R tractor and what feedback they have. I have listed some of my own feedback below just based upon a couple of hours operating the 6210R on demo. (BTW: We're a green tractor only farm and not interested in the merits of other colors :).
Thanks!
Likes:
- IVT (AutoPwr) with auto setting: It probably remains to be seen how well the auto setting will match the desired rpm with load & speed, but having the auto setting removes the need to change settings when switching between jobs
- Triple-Link Suspension (TLS) & Hydraulic cab suspension: I was expecting this tractor to ride rough and potentially buck/wheel hop with a high draft load due to the short wheel base; However, I was pleasantly surprised when it rode better than our JD 8320 (without TLS) at 9 to 9.5 mph pulling an Salford RTS; Perhaps it may wheel hop with a high draft/slow pull load, but there were no signs of it in our demo; We probably would have never fully appreciated the value of these options without doing the demo
- 31 mph IVT: combined with the suspension options above the tractor really transported well and will be a time saver for operations like spreading dry fertilizer, etc.
- Power to weight/wheelbase/maneuverability ratio: We anticipate high summer job utilization given who how well it handles
- Quietness: Extremely quiet for this high of horsepower
Dislikes (admittedly mostly minor):
- Dash gauges: For me the top of the steering wheel perfectly blocked the top of the gauges when I had the steering wheel in the most comfortable position; I would much rather have the corner post digital read-outs
- No foot pedal to move steering wheel tilt from all the way up to memory position
- Hydraulic SCV’s are mounted too high on the rear tractor and are not in a nice vertically stacked arrangement (laid out side-by-side in two pairs)
- Yet more plastic: Clearly plastic on tractors is here to stay but it is disappointing when you see parts fade and not fit as well over time; Hopefully the durability is designed into these tractors as there is plastic virtually everywhere
Edited by ksmith 11/27/2011 12:02
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Woodham, Ontario | I would look at a 7215R instead. The 6Rs are much harder to service than a 7R. The 7R has a bigger cab, TLS and cabsuspension are available. Other than the plastic, it has none of the dislikes you have with the 6R. We got a 7230R this fall, very impressed by it, everyone loves driving it. |
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Southeast Florida | Agreed, I have a 7230R IVT sitting in the shop waiting for tires, wheels, Trimble FMX, front 3-pointhitch and PTO. I have a 7630 20-speed p/s that is also waiting for tires, wheels, Trimble FMX, front 3-pointhitch and PTO, but it's running in the fields daily.
I was told to dodge the 6R's for now but I will have several of them this fall. The problem with the 6R's is they're too big for what I need. We need the 100 HP PTO range tractors and I went with 7X30's this year.
Edited by Fla Veggie Farmer 11/27/2011 13:32
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NE Ohio | I can't disagree with Gerard and yourself in regards to liking the 7R's. That was our first inclination before driving the 6210R. To me the 7R's look like the modern day version of the 8000's when they first came out. We have an 8100 that continues to run strong and has nicer features to drive than the 7XX0's. However, in the Summer it sits in favor of our older 4455's that are lighter in the hay fields and much more maneuverable. Our thought was to trade-in one or two of those for the 6210R. |
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| apart from the Direct Drive transmission (coming third quarter 2012) is the fuel tank. I have no idea who thought of it, but why in the world would someone want to make it go AROUND the left rear axle. It actually makes it impossible to install inside wheel weights on the tractor. And it will be a nice spot for mud and trash to build up. And I don't really want to think about the time when it will be necessary to do maintenance in that area...
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Woodham, Ontario | What is the Direct Drive transmission?
Will the farm you work at get some 6Rs? |
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| The DirectDrive is a dual clutch transmission (until now mostly used in luxury cars) that basically shifts like a CVT, without power cut. The closest equivalent would be a MF DynaStep. You still have fixed ratios, but stepless-like shifting. 3 ranges and 8 powershift speeds. Available on 6 cyl 6Rs from summer 2012. http://www.wnif.co.uk/articles/804/1/John-Deere-New-DirectDrive-transmission-for-6R-Series-tractors/Page1.html
I changed job just a few weeks ago... no longer working for the broccoli farm (well still doing some contracts for them as consultant, but no longer on their payroll). They are getting 10 new 6030 Premium next spring. They arrived in November and will be on snow removal duties all winter. So I guess the 6Rs will be in 3 years when they renew their fleet. Delivery for SF 6R tractors is supposed to start in April (production is starting in December I believe).
Edited by canadian farmer 11/27/2011 19:20
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Ontario Canada | canadian farmer - 11/27/2011 19:19
The DirectDrive is a dual clutch transmission (until now mostly used in luxury cars) that basically shifts like a CVT, without power cut. The closest equivalent would be a MF DynaStep. You still have fixed ratios, but stepless-like shifting. 3 ranges and 8 powershift speeds. Available on 6 cyl 6Rs from summer 2012. http://www.wnif.co.uk/articles/804/1/John-Deere-New-DirectDrive-transmission-for-6R-Series-tractors/Page1.html
I changed job just a few weeks ago... no longer working for the broccoli farm (well still doing some contracts for them as consultant, but no longer on their payroll). They are getting 10 new 6030 Premium next spring. They arrived in November and will be on snow removal duties all winter. So I guess the 6Rs will be in 3 years when they renew their fleet. Delivery for SF 6R tractors is supposed to start in April (production is starting in December I believe).
Will this eventually see its way into the 7R & 8R tractors?? |
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| Nope, the guy I talked to at Agritechnica was clear that the DirectDrive would only be available on 6R tractors (the 7Rs got the CommandQuad as an additional option to the IVT and AutoQuad, and I think the IVT and powershift cover most needs on the 8Rs). The DirectDrive will command a premium over an AutoQuad but will be cheaper than the IVT. |
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Southeast Florida | Canadian farmer, you have email.
Here the 6000 & small frame 7000 series IVT's have a terrible reputation and service record to back it up.
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Elmira, Ontario | Talk to me about that tank. My job in the dealership doesn't need me to be an expert on the equipment anymore so I probably am missing something.. However, I looked at the 6R tractor 60 feet from my office door and it doesn't have a tank like that. I checked the North American pricelist and can't find a fuel tank option either so I presume the tank that stops in front of the rear axle is the standard tank, and only tank available in North America. I could be wrong though. |
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| That could be possible. The tank around the axle I saw was at Agritechnica... probably not an option in NA since it would prevent putting RC tires on the tractor. |
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Elmira, Ontario | It's hard to tell how much wheel spacing you would lose since the tank seems to be shaped to fit inside the diameter of the rim. I had noticed the tank would have to jut out quite a bit to wrap around the cab mounts. How many gallons do you think that extra molding would hold? |
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| 13 more gallons of fuel |
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NE Ohio | The online configurator from the Deere USA/Canada web site lists option 8310 "Fuel Tank, 107 Gal. (405L) Reduces ground clearance by 80 mm." in the Customize Product section. The OMETN78776 operators manual online lists the standard fuel tank as 107 US gal. and optional as 122.8 US gal. The manual is currently found here: http://manuals.deere.com/omview/OMETN78776_19/?tM= However, the online brochure lists the standard tank at 95 gal. and optional as 107 gal., which would seem to align with the configurator.
You can see a picture of the tank canadian farmer references from the rear of the tractor on 4th page (labeled page 33) of the article linked here:
http://www.profi.com/dl/1/9/2/5/2/9/30_33_PI0911_driving_impr.indd_...
Update: Our 6210R ordered with the 107 gal tank and made in Waterloo, Iowa does not wrap around the axle as shown in canadian farmer's post above. This must only be on the European version.
Edited by ksmith 5/7/2013 06:05
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