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| We need to make a decision on which new combine to buy. We are deciding from a new Lexion 750 or the new Deere s680...We have a Deere 9770 with a 12 row corn head right now, we are not happy with the sieve loss on the hills with the 9770, otherwise it seems to be a pretty good combine. We demo'd a new Lexion 750 for a day and it seems to be a better(heavier) built combine, and we like the idea of their 3D sieve design for the hills, so which combine is better, the new Lexion 750 or Deere s680? |
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SW LOUISIANA | If ur cat dealer not close to u then go deere |
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Stayner, Ontario, Simcoe County | Jake -Before purchasing another combine demo a red Case/Int 7120 or 8120.
They work very well on hills.
Edited by WD45 11/24/2011 18:50
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Northeast Nebraska and Candelaria Philippines | I can't imagine sieve loss on a JD STS. We have a hard time with rotor loss, but never any sieve loss. |
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| sure the lexion MAY be better but you had better plan on keeping it forever because they dont hold their resale value like a green or red one |
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NE SD | I wouldn't exactly call the resale of our 9760 stellar from the trade quotes we've had. Main reason is because there is at least 500 more in the country for sale, and 1000+ 9770s for sale. To be honest, if I had the choice here I'd be giving the 750 Terra Trac a try I think. |
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NJ | I don't know about the deeres but we got a 750 tt this year and are very pleased with it. Didn't run it in any corn only beans though. Make sure you have a decent dealer ours is great. |
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Flora IL | Ya that great resale goes out the window when the market gets swamped with one machine and there al alike |
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SW Iowa | Are you in Iowa like your screen name suggests? Where at in Iowa? I know which way I would go, then again I'm a little bias. If you machine shed is currently full of Green equipment, and you are totally happy with your green dealer, then you may be in a predicament when you trade the next time. The customers with all green iron trying a yellow tractor or combine was always a hard sale, because the green dealer usually puts a bounty on getting/keeping the yellow one out of that shed. I suspect trade in value will be a non issue if the next one is yellow. If you and your operation has an open mind on equipment(color wise) you will likely find service and parts in Iowa to be pretty good. It is also likely that the performance of the Lexion will make you very happy.
Unless lots of things change, the next one on our farm will be a 750 TerraTrac too. |
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Itasca, Texas | Another vote for the 750 TT. Got one season on mine and love it. |
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| I have operated both machines and personally thought they were both great. I think if you price out comparable machines you will find quite a price difference in favor of the J.D. if you are wanting a 750TT. Next I would check supply on the 680 as I was informed most all of the Deere dealers around are sold out of the S series for next year. |
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Mid-Missouri | really like the 740 pushing 40 ft fd.
good quality and easy to use
not complex after a season of becoming familiar
love the thought behind 99% of design and assembly
great "small" company that remembers you after a visit to omaha, or even a post on the net
unhappy with soybean splits, some autosteer performance, turning radius
get tracks and most main options |
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NJ | I agree on the turning radius thing. You learn where the brakes are when you turn around like your running a flip over plow or make a giant headland. |
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Mid-Missouri | loaded 740tt was cheaper than 9770 with out all options |
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| If you are running autosteer just racetrack it, then turning radius isn't an issue. I think our productivity really went up when we stopped trying to turn back on every pass and just making every other pass with our 750TT.
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Watsontown, Pa. | its amazing how much some peoples opinion varies on the sme piece of equip. one person says its wonderful the next says its terrible. green guys go red and say theyll never go back, red guys go green and say the same thing, or w/e the color switch may be can be very interesting. |
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NE SD | Your dealer must have really thrown a deal then because that's not what I've found here. |
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East Central Ia | I would also vote for the Lexion... if you have a good dealer. If you are in Iowa... you do. I have heard great things about Ziegler... and experienced first hand how good Altorfer is in my area.
I ran a 12r30'' on my 740 this year and could not believe the capacity in corn. You can virtually eliminate combine loss with all the adjustments you can make on these machines... and almost all of them are from inside the cab.
I planted 120' of endrows and had no trouble turning around without skipping a pass, and I never adjusted my steering stops. It does not turn near as well as my 7120 did... but with 30'+ heads and enough room on the end it was a non issue for me. I could turn on 80' of endrows with a 40' flex head almost comfortably... lol little room to spare.
http://www.youtube.com/user/jakepedersenvvf?feature=mhee#p/a/u/1/Fg...
That video was taken on a flat and then heading downhill a little... hence the 73% engine load at the end. A 740 machine has way more capacity then it has enough hp to maintain in hills or wet conditions. A 750 is the same insides except its got a good 75hp more from the C13 engine.
My next machine will be on tracks... and I would strongly consider the Turbo Chop chopper instead of the Mav. I was content with the MAV... but in any wind it really struggles to throw it far enough. There are a couple adjustments I will make to it for next year, but people seem to rave about the Turbo Chop. |
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East Central Ia | Yeah I think your dealer was very aggressive Seedcleaner. It really depends on what you are trading in as well... I was trading a one year old 7120 and I really had to work them to get acceptable numbers. But I understand that... most guys looking for that machine will just buy new unless a 300hr one year old one is heavily discounted.
The numbers I was qouted two years ago when we demo'd a 570r blew Case out of the water... Until the DSM got involved. And that trading Red combine for Red combine... and Red combine and corn head for Lexion combine and cornhead. We would have been the second farm to trade Red to Lexion, and our dealer had 2 other guys go Green that year in our area. Needless to say they cut our trade price 42% from thier intial quote and we could not pass that up hoping the new machine would perform better then our 7010... it did not. |
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Peace River, AB, Canada | Resale of Lexion is worse than a Deere?? That's great news for me looking for a used Lexion!!! |
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SW Iowa | It never ceases to amaze me what green or red will do to keep a yellow one out of the shed. How many die hard green or red guys pay way too much by not saying "I'm thinking about a yellow one"? I've heard first hand accounts where 10's of thousands of dollars are cut off the price of the green/red camp when a yellow machine is threatend. |
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| If you don't need a new one you could sure buy another used but like new 9770 worth the money. The used combine market is really really bad right now. Walk into the right dealer with your check book and you will save yourself a couple hinrded k or more. |
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Central Illinois |
Deere vs. Case-IH vs. Lexion thread from a couple years ago.
http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=134449&posts=4... |
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Flora IL | Wow sounds like fun... I like combines that can turn atleast into a next pass. |
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| Probably because unless the yellow one is an absolute lemon, and I am sure there are some, the green and red guys know it will be hard to get them back. Personally, Deere would have to pay me to go back and I still may not. I am on season 4 with 1700 hrs and virtually no trouble with a 570R. Machine is a beast, sometimes in beans a little light on horsepower. The new green one with the rethresher just amazes me. Not because it is awesome just because it was the only thing deere could come up with to increase capacity. It does look like they put some more iron in it however. Not an enigineering marvel by any shape of the mind. The design of the lexion is well thought out and designed to harvest not look good. The only thing my machine needs next year is cylinder bars and new chopper knives maybe 1 belt. Maintenance cost for my machine has been retardedly low. I normally would not run a combine more than 4 years but I hate to get rid of something this reliable, the next one maybe a lemon who knows? |
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Chester, GA and Griffith, IN | I'd love to have one of the Lexions, saw some demos of them and was impressed, but we just don't farm enough anymore to justify the expense of one, even a good used one.
Edited by cib 11/24/2011 22:38
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WC MN | If our lexion dealer sold Deeres, we'd be more keen to buying a deere, but would know the machine would be mediocre in comparison to a CLAAS engineered machine.
Resale and service is most definately a regional thing.
Careful of the young guys here who paint with 20" brushes. |
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| For as much as any of these machine's cost I think there all junk, but the Lexion seems to be the best junk. 750tt rides the best, will go anywere without making a mess of your gound. We had the wettest fall every, fields still look alot better than they would with duals, the Lexion has the best track system than any. Was worth alot this fall, an the machine works well too. Try one before u knock it. Didn't spend much for fuel either, little over one gal per acre in beans, 7010 was 3 gal in wheat per acre
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custar ohio | Really? A whole tank of fuel on 80 acres? You better check your tank for a leak. I can cut 90 bushel wheat with a 40' FD at half that fuel rate. |
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| 100 acres with a tank, no hole, just a fuel hog, wheat was 20% |
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| Simple question - simple answer: the Lexion is the better combine. As for non-performance related attributes of the machine (parts, service, resale) you will have to make up your own mind there and decide how this is in your area and how much of what you read on here you want to believe about it. But if it all boils down to getting the best machine, then quite simply Claas builds the better combine. |
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South Central Nebraska | 5 years ago we decided to trade up to a Lexion for the same reason you are thinking about it, grain loss, especially in hills. We have not regretted it in any way...go for it. |
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| No hills here, no lose either |
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South Central Nebraska | We had plenty of loss on the flat too,(rotor) the hills it over tripled. (sieves) |
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| Wow, J.D. must have had a boat load of Demo 680s's out in the country side. Sounds like alot of people have ran them and formulated an opinion. BTW, not partial to either yellow or green as I have been in red for years. |
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| Well after four yrs with s series combines and also using a 2016 s series model with all the new improvements still have unacceptable losses in canola and also rethrasher still plugs in green weed seeds .Most of the noise in feeder house and in the rotor are now gone .Im thinking there's a new Jd combine coming soon to the market ,not much more to do to try and improve this design "twin rotor and back to wide long sieves (9600)" |
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New Lexion or new John Deere combine??
