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Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans
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Brandon
Posted 10/9/2011 21:07 (#1997340)
Subject: Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans


Illinois
We have run our new 3020 head over about 250 acres of beans so far, and here are my comments:

1. The dealer spent a half day attempting to find and fix all the quality control issues coming out of the factory, but we are still having problems. All the cutter bar arms have had the snap rings pop off, so we have shimmed those and drilled for cotter pins.

2. The long divider tension springs have fallen off somewhere in the field, and this caused some other hardware problems.

3. I hate the metric/ standard hardware combo.

4. Several other nuts and bolts have fallen off.

5. It feeds pretty well; probably better than the 1020 and probably due to the full finger auger.

6. It is touchy like the 1020 in less than ideal conditions. It pushes on the right side just the same.

7. The side access shields are great.

8. The lack of grease zerks is great but concerning long term. The knife drive head doesn't even have one.

9. I like the response of the auto head functions.

10. The hook ups are great.

11. I was forced to run without the long dividers today when the tension springs disappeared, and it works fine without them.

12. The number one problem is lack of parts availability, especially considering the issues.

Over all, I think it is going to be a decent head, but we have had more downtime than we had with the worn out 1020. It feeds nicely and seems less complicated as far as wear parts. I just can't get past the lack of common parts being available and some of the assembly issues.
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rons
Posted 10/9/2011 21:17 (#1997364 - in reply to #1997340)
Subject: Re: Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans


IOWA
Buy A Mac Don Head 5' larger than you have now and you will be happy! Rons
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smitty
Posted 10/9/2011 21:27 (#1997399 - in reply to #1997364)
Subject: Re: Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans


NCIA
do you happen to sell macdons?
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kb ag
Posted 10/9/2011 21:39 (#1997421 - in reply to #1997399)
Subject: Re: Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans


nc ks
he probably just has personal experience with a MD head, a happy experience.
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4020
Posted 10/9/2011 22:34 (#1997582 - in reply to #1997340)
Subject: RE: Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans


We have had every one of the problems you had and then some. I thought maybe it was just our head but I guess not. We can't even get a guard for ours. We had to drill out a section from another head to make it work on the end.
We like our 6088 but the head is making us probably have to switch to green next trade. The dealer is top notch but they can't fix everything the engineers screwed up. We are just losing too much cutting time.
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IALTO
Posted 10/9/2011 22:39 (#1997592 - in reply to #1997340)
Subject: RE: Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans


WC MN
Not sure if all the headers are built in the same place, but we had a new 2612 cornhead delivered last week and the auger was put in wrong.
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kmk
Posted 10/9/2011 22:45 (#1997603 - in reply to #1997340)
Subject: Re: Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans



West Central IL
CIH dealer had to torch and re-weld a brand new platform last week here because it was built wrong in the factory and it's still not right.
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spr352
Posted 10/9/2011 22:56 (#1997627 - in reply to #1997340)
Subject: Re: Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans


ECIL
Boy Brandon, you are not alone. We have had exactly the same experience. On our last day of harvest,(today), we noticed a couple of the cutter bar stop straps were missing, we suspect the snap rings had failed. We never got the long dividers, but the intermediate ones have actually worked pretty well. The metric nuts and bolts are a pain.....make sure you have an 18mm socket or wrench! Initially we had terrible dragging problems on the gearbox end, but rocked the feeder house back and really worked on adjusting the torsion springs and the header sensitivity, that combined with drying soil conditions, actually allowed the thing to work pretty well once we got going. Yes, we question no zerk non the sickle head, and pulling the sickle is a pain, just like the old 1020. All that being said, it is still far superior to the piece of junk 2020 it replaced.....at least we could make the 3020 actually cut beans.
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IowaMagnum275
Posted 10/10/2011 00:15 (#1997766 - in reply to #1997340)
Subject: Re: Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans


Le Mars, IA
I have had three problems with ours after 900 acres. The first thing that went wrong was I had three fingers come out of the auger at different times. Seemed to be the same one twice if I remember right. I couldn't get new ones so I stole one from each end and made it work. Lately I have had green stems get bunched up between the two stripper plates in the back and bottom of the head and when that happens the beans ride up and over the auger instead of staying behind. That makes it feed like crap. The only other complaint that I have is that it seems to want to push trash in front of the sickle mainly on the right and left sides. Sometimes it does it in the middle but not as often. We checked the angle of the head and it seems to be running where it is supposed to. Other than that I really like the way it cuts.
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CRJ
Posted 10/10/2011 07:38 (#1997908 - in reply to #1997340)
Subject: RE: Ditto on all of the above and....


NEIN
when those lower limit supports fall off the arms underneath it lets the front flex pans drop off the bottom trough and fold under the back of the header. Not a pretty sight. Also lost the main pivot bolt for the medium divider and that lets the plastic fall into the knife, also not a pretty sight. And who invented the belleville loc washer? Still better than a 2020 though.
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Easy Al
Posted 10/10/2011 10:14 (#1998091 - in reply to #1997340)
Subject: RE: Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans


I almost wish I hadn't read this. Mine has been flawless for its first 300 acres on some fairly challenging terrain. Way better than the 2020.
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rons
Posted 10/10/2011 10:57 (#1998136 - in reply to #1997399)
Subject: Re: Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans


IOWA
I do sell Mac Dons , but I personally have ran 3 on my own farm. They make soybean harvest easy!Thanks rons
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colour blind
Posted 10/10/2011 21:15 (#1998649 - in reply to #1997908)
Subject: Re: Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans


Exactly .. have 500 acres threw mine and the lower support brackets came off ,, 4 of em ... so the stainless plate of course bent and now is under auger housing .. my first case head was a 2020 .. went backwards from the deere heads we are running .. now not overly impressed with this new 3020 ... loose parts .. missing bolts . missing factory spare knife ..
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JJC450
Posted 10/12/2011 10:24 (#2000782 - in reply to #1998091)
Subject: RE: Case IH 3020 head - My experience so far in soybeans


We had the same experiences at our dealerships and sent techs out on all heads and retightened the entire head and since we have had good luck. Looks like a production line issue with quality control on work. The 2162 drapers have been perfect and we have 50% of our new head sales going to drapers saving 2-4bu per acre.
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